Anarch: Super small public domain no-dependency from-scratch suckless Doom clone

Post by pizza234 » Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 11:19 AM UTC

grawprog wrote: post #50

pizza234 wrote: post #3

This project is not exactly what it promises. The title is "portable suckless [...] 90s-style Doom clone", however, in the technical details, it's specified that "this is my custom engine (raycastlib) based on raycasting, a technique used in Wolf3D engine, but it's improved, e.g. supporting multiple levels of floor and ceiling, so that the visual result is something between Wolf3D and Doom". I don't think a that an i…

That seems a bit pedantic and a kinda negative, the whole thing read to me like a parody on the whole 'it's not a real machine unless someone's made doom run on it meme' and a homage to doom style games. It didn't seem to me like it was taking a jab at modern games or anything too serious. Just someone having a bit of fun, bragging a bit and showing off their work. Nothing to get so worked up about. It's a neat proje…

Post by krageon » Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 12:38 PM UTC

megameter wrote: post #39

I admire the adherence to principle and depth of execution, however I find something about this incoherent. Shaving off some aesthetic components of violence and positioning the work as anticapitalist does not address the core issue of every game project: What does the game facilitate a study of? That's not a leading question or "gotcha". It's just the thing every game player will ask at some point: What is it about?…

Post by ddingus » Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 4:11 PM UTC

pizza234 wrote: post #51

grawprog wrote: post #50

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That seems a bit pedantic and a kinda negative, the whole thing read to me like a parody on the whole 'it's not a real machine unless someone's made doom run on it meme' and a homage to doom style games. It didn't seem to me like it was taking a jab at modern games or anything too serious. Just someone having a bit of fun, bragging a bit and showing off their work. Nothing to get so worked up about. It's a neat proje…

Point taken! (although it seems the author is very serious in their anti-capitalistic stance)

Post by ddingus » Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 4:42 PM UTC

drummyfish wrote: post #31

jokethrowaway wrote: post #24

That's an admirable project I wish I could live long enough to see sentient robots become part of society and protest this violent game which discriminates robots and encourage violence towards machines. #AIUnitedCancelAnarch I also wish this wouldn't so political, I don't see what capitalism has done to this guy - including giving him the tools to create this game! There are also plenty of games that can be played a…

I actually don't mind violence even against people as long as it's only in games, movies etc. Never in real life. All people should be able to strictly tell apart games and reality, and then violence in games can actually be helpful to relieve the inherent need for violence in humans without hurting anyone. I used robots just to bring attention to pacifism and because I found it a nice replacement for demons, plus it…

Post by phaemon » Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 9:12 PM UTC

qayxc wrote: post #49

phaemon wrote: post #48

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It's not nonsense at all, and nothing you wrote contradicts what I said. You can blame any human activity on "human nature". At one time human nature gave us the slave trade, but we still made slavery illegal. Calling it "human nature" doesn't mean there's nothing we can do about it. When I say "structurally enforces", I mean that it amplifies the natural urge to have more, or do better, than someone else. For exampl…

> Bit it's a bit much when you end up with someone who has 10,000,000x the comfortable persons wealth. That's not human nature: that's a structure set up to funnel the wealth that ordinary people have created, to a tiny number of individuals. And I see that as a problem even if you don't. That is not enforced by capitalism, though. Capitalism isn't a single incarnation of an economic system, it's an entire landscape…