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The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Software companies that claim they "Work to make a Difference" strike me as cultish and are an immediate turn off. I work for a living, I volunteer and work in my community to make a difference.

Silly question: Why don't we work to make a difference? We spend, generally, at least 8 hours a day, 40 hours a week at work. If that time is spent making a difference, it really ups the odds that something actually gets done.

Because these are for profit companies. What is actually happening when a company says they want to work to make a difference is that they want to harvest your enthusiasm for improving the world to make them more profit, or create free marketing for them.

When choices come down to make a difference or make a profit companies choose profit. If they truly wanted to make a difference, they would be nonprofits.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

#52
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Old World--------------------| New World--------------------| Me------------------------------- -----------------------------|-------------------------------|---------------------------------- Work to make a living | Work to make a difference | Nope [1] Follow explicit instructions | Chart the course | Depends on the role [2] Juggle work and life | Harmonize work and life | Sounds like: never stop working Commute int…

Don't worry about tabulation, you got the content right.

The slide deck is a PR piece aimed at tricking people into giving more of their lives to corporate interests.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

#53
There are lots of different cultures and culture codes tend to emphasize the notion of "having a single culture".

I am from New York and spend most of my time in Colombia. My English speaking New York personality and Spanish speaking Colombian personality have diverged quite significantly.

I am a lot more indirect in Spanish. I'll rarely say "no" in Spanish for example. I'll always try to rephrase it as "yes, but we could also..." or "maybe we could...".

The "we seek the truth and face facts" mentality works well for some cultures and not as great for others.

I question the idea that a company should have a single culture. Might be better to aim to be a place where folks from a variety of cultures can collaborate.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

#54
Company "culture" always makes me a little skeptical, particularly when they're used for hiring decisions. I can't help but think it is just another way to discriminate against folks - I mean if you're saying some one isn't a culture fit what are you really saying about them?

I get it if you're telegraphing that you just don't think they'll fit with you team, but having seen a lot of culture interviews in practice, they seem to be more socially acceptable code for "they're not gender conforming in profession, preference or practice", "they're not white", or what have you.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

#55
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disrupted:_My_Misadventure_i...

> FBI documents accessed by journalists via a freedom of information request revealed that HubSpot attempted "multiple failed attempts to manipulate and extort people” with the intention of stopping the book's publication.

> HubSpot executives considered the book "a financial threat to HubSpot, its share price, and the company’s future potential."

I'm including this because this book was published in 2016. While I'm sure that HubSpot, its employees, and management may have learned some things about integrity and transparency since then, it's probably not enough to be writing this soap-boxy slide deck that announces that software built around their culture is going to solve their problems.

On the other hand, I do believe software can shape and guide a culture but only if the culture is also at the pilot seat behind that software. That's to say, as long as the implementors of said software are not interested in developing a certain culture. Your employees will inevitably decide what software gets used and what software gets circumvented, the byproduct of which becomes what people colloquially refer to as culture.

Culture comes from everywhere. When you recruit gay people, some of the values of gay people trickle into your company. When you recruit Black people, values of Black folks trickle in. When you recruit from universities those values trickle in. Each of those will shape your culture and those people are not monoliths either, they're mixes of many vibrant and dark experiences. The last part is key, recruiting is one aspect, but your company culture will continue to evolve and I see projects like this as software trying to drive culture (what the C-suite wants) instead of culture driving software that it maintains itself.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

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Have worked in a company with open books:

Its actually nothing i want anymore; There are many reasons why people earn a certain amount of money but being involved in that process in a company wide group setting was horrible annoying and didn't make me feel any better.

And on my salary discussion, it was mentioned what extra perks i got from the company and that amounted to a certain amount which suddenly meant "Look we give you less money because we think it increases the social factor if we force you to be in our company on a day with everyone else to eat together etc. in a forced social setting, which was nice don't get me wrong, by you paying indirectly.

And thats the issue, either the company is paying for it, or you don't do it.

At the end of the day, you can easily find nice people you wana hang around with while you work in plenty of normal companies. Just make sure you find a good Team.

And yes all those things they do it for 2 reasons: 1. keeping employees 2. getting new employees. Being a little bit of edgy might just be cheaper than paying head hunters and if you can take unlimited good people but you just don't get them, every person going through your door because of all this hipness, is one person more earning money for you.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

#57
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you on that front. In earlier versions of the deck, we actually explicitly called out that we are NOT a family. We are a team with a common goal. You don't get to choose your family, but you do get to choose your team. h/t to Netflix for that original "team not a family".

Why did you remove that call-out?

Candidly, this year, because of the pandemic, we've come closer together as a group. Not quite a family -- but closer. Also, I needed to make room in the deck to articulate our position on diversity and inclusion.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

#58
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That's nice. Thanks for sharing it. Expect loads of cynicism. I've found that talking about having Principles and Integrity in business and professional endeavors, usually results in being accused of "virtue signaling," which is ridiculous, as we are only talking about simple, basic, realistic human values; not some kind of Mother Theresa code. That said, it is extremely easy to let a focus on "culture" turn into a t…

Thanks for the warning. I hear you. My direct experience is that there will be some that will be cynical -- that's OK. A big lesson for me personally is that working on culture as a "product" is very useful. Collect customer feedback. Identify bugs. Categorize some things as "works as designed". Be transparent with your customers. And, of course, iterate, iterate, iterate.

> Collect customer feedback. Identify bugs. Categorize some things as "works as designed". Be transparent with your customers.

Sounds like "doing business" to me. I have a professional relationship with the company I'm working for and that's it. Don't need to add some "feel good" fluff which is just hidden marketing after all.

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

#59

Love the product, but this deck... jeez. It's like all this companies that claim that you're in the family and then this family ask you to leave. I've seen too much places with "culture" when in reality it's a toxic as hell.

Reminds me of this reddit post about stack overflow: https://i.redd.it/per2eihv0jn31.png.

"Hi, welcome to Stack Overflow! Please take time to read the rules before posting so that you don't make such a big fool of yourself next time. We're a friendly bunch here so it's ok that you're an inferior human being and clearly don't know what you're doing, but just be sure not to post here again and that would be great. Thanks!"

Re: The HubSpot Culture Code [slides]

#60
post #55

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disrupted:_My_Misadventure_i... > FBI documents accessed by journalists via a freedom of information request revealed that HubSpot attempted "multiple failed attempts to manipulate and extort people” with the intention of stopping the book's publication. > HubSpot executives considered the book "a financial threat to HubSpot, its share price, and the company’s future potential." I'm in…

Off topic: why is "Black" capitalized but "gay" is not? What's the rule here? I'm not a native English speaker, sorry!
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