Mostly I would just want Electron to disappear overnight.
So ignore they exist & live the future you want. Any resurgence in Desktop Apps was because of Electron, many of which would not have been created otherwise.
Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
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Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#52I am really curious why the response to Apple Silicon is so prompt vs when Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Was there some problem in compilation tool-chain or what?
> Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Commitment. Confidence. Customers. Apple has committed to Apple Silicon. Flagship products are switching. It isn’t an add-on or side project. That breeds confidence that Apple will stick with it. That confidence and Apple’s track record make it likely there will be demand for software on Apple Silicon. This is compounded by Apple’s cus…
I think it also must help that a lot of these developers already have a bunch of ARM code running on iOS, so along with Catalyst and I’m sure shared libraries between their existing iOS/Mac apps it was probably easier to get builds out than it could have been.
Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#53I am really curious why the response to Apple Silicon is so prompt vs when Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Was there some problem in compilation tool-chain or what?
Because MS always do half the job and call it done (I'm a C# dev btw).
Take Windows for IOT for example: if you read the presentation and the articles you would think it's a viable solution.
I tried to develop a really simple app on it for work. The thing was so slow that I couldn't even make some scrollable text without lag! The same raspberry with Linux is perfectly fine.
If you really want to "understand" Microsoft, just take a look at their UI frameworks: WinForms, WPF, UWP, the javascript one I forgot the name of, and now it's WinUI.
Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#54I hope applications like Teams, Discord, and others that have iOS / iPadOS apps allow users to use those rather than electron versions.
I tried to use the JIRA "Catalyst" app (what is JIRA app in the Mac App store) and... it's bad.
It's fast, much faster than the web version. But otherwise pretty bad. I kept being frustrated with it too much and switched back to web.
And Catalyst is supposed to be "more native" than iOS apps running on macOS directly...
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you don't want Electron apps, don't use them. It's not like they would exist without Electron. The people who build Electron apps are, for the most part, people who wouldn't build an app otherwise.
> The people who build Electron apps are, for the most part, people who wouldn't build an app otherwise. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
Remember to stop using VSCode, since it's based on Electron
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What is the difference? The fact that there won't be new x86 Macs in 5 years.
I say 2... future us will have to track this bet.
What makes you think there still will be x86 Macs in 5 years? (we're speaking about new Macs right?)
If Apple still made XServe I would agree but here I don't see why they would keep x86 in their lineup.
Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#57i don't recall such support when msft was launching arm based laptops. does anyone have insight to why this is so? is it a case of apple developer relations doing an outstanding job engaging with the community?
Microsoft isn’t deprecating Intel support; Apple will. That alone is cause enough to port apps, but there’s also Apple’s history of warning users about end of life for their apps using OS dialogs that shame the apps that refuse to comply with ecosystem advancement.
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#58What M1 giveth, Electron taketh away. Sigh.
If only the issue was limited to Electron... I often feel like Electron is more a declaration of defeat, like: hey no matter where you look at, software bloat keeps eating the precious advances in power provided by hardware. So let's at least get some comfort and value out of that. (Electron does put multiplatform desktop development within reach of 100x more developers than Qt/etc)
I installed windows NT in a virtual machine for kicks a few months back. Then installed office 97 on it.
If you do that and open slack immediately afterwards it feels painful instantly. The difference in how it feels is quite scary.
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#60Wondering if we see a few less major electron apps on Apple silicon as companies can share their swift codebases a few different ways.
Very unlikely, they’ll still have 2 codebases and the point of these frameworks is to only write the code once.