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Re: What’s expected of us (2005)

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I think it's decidable, as long as we agree on our definitions and assumptions. So for example let's assume that free will is the ability of an agent to do otherwise. I don't think that view of free will is compatible with agents being non-random consistent beings. For a decision to be mine it must be determined by my memories, preferences, personality, skills, experiences, etc. The decision must be determined by my…

> I think it's decidable, as long as we agree on our definitions and assumptions. I guess, you mean if I accept your definitions, assumptions, and their underlying premises which will most likely lead us to conclude that your point of view is more reasonable, don’t you? :) That is, yes, once we agreed on every underlying concept scopes and the rules to play with them, chances are far better that we agree on the concl…

Oh absolutely, that's exactly my point. Even my example definition has ambiguities.

I defined an agent as being a non-random consistent being, but what does consistent mean exactly? What I meant was that I have reasons for my actions. After all, if I can give reasons for my actions, and I'm not deluded, surely my reasons determine my actions? Take that deterministic relationship away in the name of some abstruse philosophical concept of 'free will' being the ability to do otherwise, and why did I perform that action exactly?

Of course dualists have a very different conception of a human actor. They deny that we are 'mere' mechanisms and that there must be more to humans and their minds than the merely physical. Whatever that 'more' is. How exactly that gets round the problem I really don't know. Ive never read a convincing account of that. You're right, we need to dig into these assumptions. What is an actor? What is a consistent being? In dualism, what is this dual other thing, that isn't physical and what role does it play in decisions? That is the real question for dualism. Free will or lack of it is merely a consequence.

Re: What’s expected of us (2005)

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really nice quote, this comment is only commented so I can find this again.

> this comment is only commented so I can find this again But what about the HN favorites: https://news.ycombinator.com/favorites?id=naringas&comments=... ?

It's annoying that it needs to open another page. And it is not easily discoverable.

Re: What’s expected of us (2005)

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> this comment is only commented so I can find this again But what about the HN favorites: https://news.ycombinator.com/favorites?id=naringas&comments=... ?

It's annoying that it needs to open another page. And it is not easily discoverable.

You just go to your profile page and it's there. How is this not easy?

Re: What’s expected of us (2005)

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I have this bookmarked alongside a couple of other short stories that you might enjoy if you liked this: - http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html - http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html - https://www.tor.com/2010/08/05/divided-by-infinity/

Can I suggest you add "I don't know, Timmy, being God is a big responsibility" to your list?

https://qntm.org/responsibility

Re: What’s expected of us (2005)

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It's annoying that it needs to open another page. And it is not easily discoverable.

You just go to your profile page and it's there. How is this not easy?

The method by which the favourite gets into the list is not discoverable. Why would anyone think that clicking on the time a submission was made would be the route to adding a favourite?

And the list of favourites would be much more discoverable if it were simply a link next to your name on the page. After all there is plenty of space at the top right of every page on HN

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