MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1 • Hacker News Board

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by saagarjha » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 9:39 PM UTC

wayneftw wrote: post #49

saagarjha wrote: post #47

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You don't get to speak for everyone. Especially if you are not aware of the many people who are just fine with working in even more "constrained" environments like Chromebooks.

This is a “Pro” machine though. It’s the exact opposite market, not for people who can fit on a Chromebook. Rationalize however you want for yourself - pros that choose to use Apple products are already generally aware of how their hardware money grab works.

If you looked at where it fits in the lineup, you would understand that it is not meant to fit in to the market you are trying to put it in.

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by 00deadbeef » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 11:21 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #46

virgilp wrote: post #31

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Yeah but is this a pro machine? I'd have no problem with 8Gb on an "Air", but for a pro machine to be 16Gb max, it does seem inadequate

A lot of pro workloads are CPU-intensive, not memory-intensive. E.g. a lot of audiovisual work. The pro line has always been defined by CPU and graphics/display capabilities. Memory is there to purchase if you're in the subset that has memory-intensive workloads.

It isn't there to purchase, it's maxed out at a measly 16GB. Plenty of workloads are RAM-intensive, but people who need more RAM are forced to spend $500 for a slower Intel CPU and GPU.

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by 00deadbeef » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 11:23 PM UTC

mlindner wrote: post #10

lord_sudo wrote: post #6

Why are they limited to 16gb? Is this related to the arm chip design?

The DRAM is embedded into the same SoC as the GPU and CPU. Hard to have a lot of DRAM inside a small package.

I wonder how they're going to replace the MacBook Pro 16" which has 64GB BTO options. Even the Mac Mini had a 64GB option but it too is stuck at just 16GB max. Will they produce a massive package to accommodate it?

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by ullanta » Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 6:36 AM UTC

wayneftw wrote: post #49

saagarjha wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't get to speak for everyone. Especially if you are not aware of the many people who are just fine with working in even more "constrained" environments like Chromebooks.

This is a “Pro” machine though. It’s the exact opposite market, not for people who can fit on a Chromebook. Rationalize however you want for yourself - pros that choose to use Apple products are already generally aware of how their hardware money grab works.

Pretty much any pro - in audio/video at least - is not going to be using the built-in drive for projects. Even 2TB doesn’t cut it. So pros are using external storage anyway.

Re: MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

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Post by sto_hristo » Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 3:01 PM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #47

sto_hristo wrote: post #45

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256 GB is an insult to everyone. And most people don't store all their data in cLoUd, just some minor, select stuff - that is why absolutely everyone has GBs of free storage from so many vendors. If most used the cloud heavily, those whole thing will collapse in an afternoon.

You don't get to speak for everyone. Especially if you are not aware of the many people who are just fine with working in even more "constrained" environments like Chromebooks.

Neither do you, special guy. For the many people that are just fine with a Choromebook, make a MacChromebook. But market BS like 256 GB as pro and put it a ridiculous price tag - that is just plain nonsense.