Biden Wins Presidency, Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump • Hacker News Board

Re: Biden Wins Presidency, Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump

#51

Post by RealityVoid » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 5:14 PM UTC

ihuman wrote: post #18

This thread has more points, but the CNN thread is older and has more comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25015967

And now they are both flagged. Ridiculous. I doubt the no politics rule on HN is fair at this point. I understand why it's present, but I feel it just silences waves of valid discussion about important topics.

I can not help but feel that Trump supporters are brigading these threads and actively trying to bury them. The fact that only old enough accounts can downvote means these are experienced HN contributors. Unsettling, really.

Re: Biden Wins Presidency, Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump

#52

Post by rvz » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 5:14 PM UTC

googthrowaway42 wrote: post #33

Headline is false. Biden is projected by the media to defeat Trump. Biden is not President-elect. The President is elected in mid December by the electoral college. Tens of millions of people are about to get a crash course in civics.

Don't forget that this is coming from the Twitter ACAB folks celebrating a cop as vice president and potentially taking over the presidency.

Guess they're also blind to that one aren't they?

Re: Biden Wins Presidency, Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump

#53

Post by toomuchtodo » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 5:15 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #38

toomuchtodo wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GOP actively sought, across the country, to handicap or prevent mail and absentee voting to suppress votes that typically fall to Democrats. The president tweeted about unproven voter fraud and to stop counting votes. If that isn’t attempts at brazen voter suppression, I don’t know what is. Democracy was stress tested, and it still worked.

Oregon and Colorado have successfully done mail in voting for years, with safeguards like ballots having to arrive by Election Day and signature verification. Democrats fought to get rid of rules like that all over the country, and succeeded in Pennsylvania.

Requiring ballots arrive by Election Day is unreasonable when the executive branch is handicapping the postal service for partisan reasons.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/04/2020-presidential-election-p... (Postal Service data shows poor mail-in ballot delivery rate in key swing states, judge suggests Postmaster General DeJoy might have to testify)

Re: Biden Wins Presidency, Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump

#54

Post by vaccinator » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 5:15 PM UTC

https://factcheck.afp.com/human-error-michigan-county-vote-t...

Re: Biden Wins Presidency, Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump

#55

Post by chris11 » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 5:16 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #29

rayiner wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We just had an election with widespread mail in voting with extended deadlines and historic turnout. And if anything Trump’s support among non-white voters went up. What does that suggest re: the scale of voter suppression?

The GOP actively sought, across the country, to handicap or prevent mail and absentee voting to suppress votes that typically fall to Democrats. The president tweeted about unproven voter fraud and to stop counting votes. If that isn’t attempts at brazen voter suppression, I don’t know what is. Democracy was stress tested, and it still worked.

> Democracy was stress tested, and it still worked.

The fake allegations of voter fraud and the extensive efforts to suppress votes will damage future elections. And the presidential election survived attacks, but the senate could be impacted.

Re: Biden Wins Presidency, Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump

#56

Post by BlueTemplar » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 5:17 PM UTC

neves wrote: post #5

Voter suppression. Voting in a working day. Need to register for voting. Legal battles. Inconsistent rules. A refusing to leave president. Is this the model of government that the USA bomb other countries for?

> A refusing to leave president.

Bait him out with a cheeseburger !

https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=5061

Re: Biden Wins Presidency, Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump

#57

Post by neilsense » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 5:17 PM UTC

mmastrac wrote: post #8

neves wrote: post #5

Voter suppression. Voting in a working day. Need to register for voting. Legal battles. Inconsistent rules. A refusing to leave president. Is this the model of government that the USA bomb other countries for?

Unfortunately the red team has been working to disenfranchise as many voters as possible. The country is far bluer than the electoral map would suggest, thanks to years of voter suppression.

Good god please do not go into the next election with that thought process. Admit what has happened and start to work out why.

Re: Biden Wins Presidency, Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump

#58

Post by stu2b50 » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 5:17 PM UTC

BlueTemplar wrote: post #45

With a lead of only 34k votes in Pennsylvania, and 135k ballots still left to count, considering the tensions in the country, IMHO the Associated Press should have waited a bit more before declaring Biden as a winner…

Everyone with the numbers called it back on Wednesday when Trump technically still had a lead. It's a double whammy: all of the votes left are not only in overwhelmingly blue areas, they're also mail in ballots. They're blue at >80% rate.

Re: Biden Wins Presidency, Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump

#59

Post by gamblor956 » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 5:17 PM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #38

toomuchtodo wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The GOP actively sought, across the country, to handicap or prevent mail and absentee voting to suppress votes that typically fall to Democrats. The president tweeted about unproven voter fraud and to stop counting votes. If that isn’t attempts at brazen voter suppression, I don’t know what is. Democracy was stress tested, and it still worked.

Oregon and Colorado have successfully done mail in voting for years, with safeguards like ballots having to arrive by Election Day and signature verification. Democrats fought to get rid of rules like that all over the country, and succeeded in Pennsylvania.

Signatures are still required in Pennsylvania, and many states have allowed ballots to arrive after the election for decades, including 3 of the states still uncalled (NV, NC, and Georgia).

Moreover, military votes have been allowed to arrive after election day in nearly all states since at least WWII.

Re: Biden Wins Presidency, Ending Four Tumultuous Years Under Trump

#60

Post by googthrowaway42 » Sat, Nov 07, 2020, 5:18 PM UTC

rvz wrote: post #52

googthrowaway42 wrote: post #33

Headline is false. Biden is projected by the media to defeat Trump. Biden is not President-elect. The President is elected in mid December by the electoral college. Tens of millions of people are about to get a crash course in civics.

Don't forget that this is coming from the Twitter ACAB folks celebrating a cop as vice president and potentially taking over the presidency. Guess they're also blind to that one aren't they?

Salvation within progressivism is gained through faith, not through works.

This is why they are completely immune to accusations of hypocrisy.