Cirrect me if I wrong, but wasn't AWS just registering most of the domains via Gandi? At least before they only used their own registry for few most popular TLDs.
AWS is not offering Austria's TLD .at for registration
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Re: AWS is not offering Austria's TLD .at for registration
#52When AWS initially started offering domain registrations, I transferred a few domains (that I'd already been using Route 53 for) over to keep everything in one place.
A few months later, I wanted to transfer them elsewhere, but quickly realized that the auth codes in the AWS interface had expired, with no way to renew them. I didn't have a support subscription since I only used the AWS account for these 4 domains + Route 53 and I wasn't about to pay Amazon 30$/month to get them to fix their own mistakes.
I naïvely tried contacting billing support (the only one you can contact for free, go figure) in the hope they could forward the bug report, but while they were very apologetic, there was nothing they could do.
So Amazon took my domains hostage for 6 months until they eventually figured out the bug on their own. Have not touched anything related to AWS ever since.
Re: AWS is not offering Austria's TLD .at for registration
#53Always register your domain with a different provider. A domain is one of the crown jewels of a company. If you lose the domain, you lose everything (email, web, services, etc.), possibly permanently, with no option to migrate without losing your domain, branding, SEO position, etc. e.g. * Your server got hacked, and your entire account gets blocked * You get a shock bill from AWS, and lose access to the account beca…
The consequences are not quite so dramatically irrevocable. I’ve recently assisted a family member whose hosting provider was bought by a gang of unscrupulous clowns and their domains effectively held to ransom. It took only hours to recover them and switch registrars, during which time I’d used/activated only the same channels and processes available to any other registrant. And AWS are not a gang of pirates. Someon…
Can you share a resource to learn more about the recovery process?
Re: AWS is not offering Austria's TLD .at for registration
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not limited to marketing. Try asking a question along the lines of, "why does x do this?" The answer is frequently, "you shouldn't do x, you should do y." Clearly the question is asking for an explanation, but people will double down on how wrong the questioner is for even asking.
Sometimes people are asking for what they think they want because they don't know that theres a better way to solve their problem. http://xyproblem.info/ Also https://xkcd.com/1172/
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Re: AWS is not offering Austria's TLD .at for registration
#55Separation of concerns is of the utmost importance in my experience. Domains, DNS, App/Web Hosting, Email (Domain and Transactional), File Storage, Version Control, Backups, Secrets Storage, Directory Services, Zero-Trust/VPN, etc. should be on different providers (or different accounts if an overlapping provider), whether the services are third-party or self-hosted or a mixture of both.
Isn't that just maximising points of failure? I completely agree with the idea of keeping the domain registration separate as an ultima ratio recovery option, maybe opt for a third party when shopping for a second site backup and obviously an independent provider for your status page (which is also where you could bootstrap emergency communications if need arises), but everything else would just be more downtime reasons.
Would this service still provide value if all the others were down? Would all the others still provide value of this was down? If both answers are yes, separate, if both are no, don't, if the answers differ go with the flow.
Re: AWS is not offering Austria's TLD .at for registration
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not limited to marketing. Try asking a question along the lines of, "why does x do this?" The answer is frequently, "you shouldn't do x, you should do y." Clearly the question is asking for an explanation, but people will double down on how wrong the questioner is for even asking.
Golang in one comment.
All so true: "sync/atomic"
Re: AWS is not offering Austria's TLD .at for registration
#57I manage a portfolio of 1800+ domains for my employer. When we migrated DNS to route53 in early 2019 we discussed moving registration as well. That conversation took about two minutes and ended in a hard no. Our registrar is MarkMonitor who specializes in large portfolios. I’ve got a dedicated account rep. We know each other well. We talk often, not just domains but college sports, etc. I need something I email my gu…
> Registering a .es domain requires a scan of my drivers license. He handles that.
Maybe it’s different inside the EU compared to outside of it, but I have a few .es domains and I didn’t have to provide a scan of any ID to reg them, I did have to provide the ID’s number.
Now it might be that the ID number might be more easily queryable between EU states removing the need of a scan compared to counties, I’ve never looked into it. But it’s still a piece of information MM can just hold on to and handle when required for you.
I’m just sharing my own experiences with .es tlds, one thing I will say having a 3rd party like MM monitoring and handling your .es domains is they are now responsible for renewing them, if you miss the emails about your domain expiring because auto-renew failed due to an expired card and you fail to renew in time there is little to no grace time compared to other tlds. That one almost bit me on the arse once :-(
Re: AWS is not offering Austria's TLD .at for registration
#58I want it has to do with .at's automatic renewals? https://help.opensrs.com/hc/en-us/articles/203858976--AT-Dom...
> .AT domains renew automatically. A domain must be cancelled 3 days before the expiry date to avoid renewal. ... If the reseller cannot reach the registrant, or if the registrant refuses to pay, refuses to sign the form, or claims not to have heard of the reseller, a Domain Withdrawal can be processed. To process this withdrawal, the reseller will have to contact OpenSRS support. They can state "I can not reach the registrant, please give the domain back to the registry". Once OpenSRS support processes the withdrawal the registry will no longer point the domain at OpenSRS. The registry will take over and contact the registrant. If the registrant is still unresponsive, the domain is deleted by the registry.
Re: AWS is not offering Austria's TLD .at for registration
#59Always register your domain with a different provider. A domain is one of the crown jewels of a company. If you lose the domain, you lose everything (email, web, services, etc.), possibly permanently, with no option to migrate without losing your domain, branding, SEO position, etc. e.g. * Your server got hacked, and your entire account gets blocked * You get a shock bill from AWS, and lose access to the account beca…
Yes I agree, you can always do that and set Route53 as your dns for some specific AWS functionality. For instance static site hosting on a S3 bucket on your main domain (not www) isn't possible without having your domain in route53.
Bigger threat of losing domains is not paying for them.
Re: AWS is not offering Austria's TLD .at for registration
#60I manage a portfolio of 1800+ domains for my employer. When we migrated DNS to route53 in early 2019 we discussed moving registration as well. That conversation took about two minutes and ended in a hard no. Our registrar is MarkMonitor who specializes in large portfolios. I’ve got a dedicated account rep. We know each other well. We talk often, not just domains but college sports, etc. I need something I email my gu…
.es or .at, piece of cake. Try .ax! ;-)