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Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

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Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

because almost no one pays in a patreon model.

i m not sure if someone has worked out the economics. Billions can pirate a movie, yet many millions pay netflix etc. How much does a movie play cost on netflix.

Billions pirate a movie, yet they still recoup the production costs somehow because they aren't anywhere near going bankrupt.

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

#52

Has anyone actually ever succeeded in streaming anything over tor? It’s usually so slow that ordinary html pages take several seconds. I can’t imagine streaming would work...

Just tested a 720p youtube video, works fine. You're likely experiencing high latency rather than low bandwidth.

Still seems silly it's mentioned though, it's trivial to block Tor exits.

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#53
post #39

Well hey, that's what happens when you turn streaming into cable . I had Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu subscriptions last year. Today, I have none of those, except for one or two video purchases I made on Amazon. Now I'm supposed to have Disney+, CBS All Access, HBO Max, Peacock, etc., and that list will probably grow. And we're at a low point in what we consider entertainment. It's bread and circuses up the wazoo. And n…

I agree it sucks, but isn't this pretty much what "everyone" was asking for? A few years ago it felt like every week there was some refrain of > Look, I don't want to pay $120 for 900 channels I never watch. Just let me pay for them a la carte. This reminds me of those plots where the devil grants wishes in sneaky terrible ways that are not at all what the asker intended.

Only, we're not paying $60 for 15 channels we want now. We're paying $60 for 1-2 shows each from 200 channels (most of which we don't want). Channels had themes, and what people meant by a la carte was being able to get the themes they wanted.

Personally, I'd prefer to see every service have access to (pretty much) all content and then compete on quality/price/etc... kind of like how music tends to work nowadays.

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

#54
post #39

Well hey, that's what happens when you turn streaming into cable . I had Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu subscriptions last year. Today, I have none of those, except for one or two video purchases I made on Amazon. Now I'm supposed to have Disney+, CBS All Access, HBO Max, Peacock, etc., and that list will probably grow. And we're at a low point in what we consider entertainment. It's bread and circuses up the wazoo. And n…

I agree it sucks, but isn't this pretty much what "everyone" was asking for? A few years ago it felt like every week there was some refrain of > Look, I don't want to pay $120 for 900 channels I never watch. Just let me pay for them a la carte. This reminds me of those plots where the devil grants wishes in sneaky terrible ways that are not at all what the asker intended.

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Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

#55

Well hey, that's what happens when you turn streaming into cable . I had Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu subscriptions last year. Today, I have none of those, except for one or two video purchases I made on Amazon. Now I'm supposed to have Disney+, CBS All Access, HBO Max, Peacock, etc., and that list will probably grow. And we're at a low point in what we consider entertainment. It's bread and circuses up the wazoo. And n…

> Now I'm supposed to have Disney+, CBS All Access, HBO Max, Peacock, etc., and that list will probably grow I honestly don't see why anyone needs more than maybe two streaming services. Do you really need to see everything ? Even during the pandemic, two seems to be plenty for most families. Imagine arguing that movies are too expensive now because you have to see a movie every day. The obvious solution is to priori…

> Do you really need to see everything?

It's not about seeing everything, it's about seeing what's good, and how that's scattered across a dozen or more services where it's buried under mostly mediocre/bad content.

Sure, sometimes there's an option to just rent/buy digitally, but often that ends up being way more expensive than just buying a physical blu-ray version.

Case in point: If I wanted to stream Battlestar Galactica (2004) in Germany then the first option for that would be Amazon Prime Video. Even tho I pay for a prime membership, buying all 4 seasons digitally in HD quality, would cost me 92€, there is no option to just rent them.

While ordering the blu-ray set for the whole show, on Amazon with delivery tomorrow, would cost me 48€, nearly half as much and I get a physical version I can use as often and wherever I want, even if the unthinkable happens and Amazon goes out of business.

Why does the clearly inferior version of a product cost that much more?

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

#56

Industries that rely on TV are a cancer refusing to die. People here are forced by law to pay more than 200 EUR per year to the national TV broadcaster even when they don't own a TV. The reason? They still receive the signal, thus they could watch TV if they wanted. BS. /rant

Generally, I've heard very wonderful things about the Public Broadcasting Station here in the United States and would be happy if $200 per year of my taxes went to them.

In Germany the problem is that it's a fee that is flat per household, so a young single with barely any income has to pay just as much as a family with 2 incomes or a shared apartment with a bunch of people, each household has to pay the same 210€ per year regardless of number of users or actual consumption.

A lot of the programming is really dated and mostly appealing to somewhat older folks, with tons of regional broadcasters having several versions of folks music festival shows.

There's some interesting online-content aimed at younger audiences like ZDFNeo, Tagesschau does some decent reporting but kills any comment section hours after release, if they open them at all. I enjoy content co-produced with ARTE like documentaries, but all of that has zero retention.

German public broadcasting laws do prohibit them from storing their content for an indefinite time, which the private media industry lobbied for as they feared public broadcasters would build massive libraries "distorting the market". This even applies to publicly funded news portals like Tagesschau [0] where articles will often be deleted after a year or ARTE documentaries that are only streamable for like 3 months, to then vanish in distribution/publisher limbo for sometimes years before they can be bought.

[0] https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/rundfunkaenderungsstaatsver...

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

#57
post #29

Well hey, that's what happens when you turn streaming into cable . I had Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu subscriptions last year. Today, I have none of those, except for one or two video purchases I made on Amazon. Now I'm supposed to have Disney+, CBS All Access, HBO Max, Peacock, etc., and that list will probably grow. And we're at a low point in what we consider entertainment. It's bread and circuses up the wazoo. And n…

Comparing it cable is unfair. At least cable worked properly with my television unlike the HDCP infested upgrade nightmare that streaming turned into. I started just pirating the content I was subscribed to because it was easier. Then they made it harder with all the fragmentation so I stopped paying for it full stop. Movie industry has to do the leg work to get my attention and that is very fragile. They choose not…

I find a lot of pirate services don't really serve the 4k market that well. The vast majority of it is 1080p. Do you just use 1080p or 4k in your piracy adventures? Is the new thing not bittorrent?

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

#58
post #57
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comparing it cable is unfair. At least cable worked properly with my television unlike the HDCP infested upgrade nightmare that streaming turned into. I started just pirating the content I was subscribed to because it was easier. Then they made it harder with all the fragmentation so I stopped paying for it full stop. Movie industry has to do the leg work to get my attention and that is very fragile. They choose not…

I find a lot of pirate services don't really serve the 4k market that well. The vast majority of it is 1080p. Do you just use 1080p or 4k in your piracy adventures? Is the new thing not bittorrent?

1080p and bittorrent. That's it. I honestly don't have the eyesight or a large enough screen that 4k makes a difference for me.

Re: Movie Industry: VPNs and Tor Pose a Threat to Legitimate Streaming Platforms

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Well hey, that's what happens when you turn streaming into cable . I had Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu subscriptions last year. Today, I have none of those, except for one or two video purchases I made on Amazon. Now I'm supposed to have Disney+, CBS All Access, HBO Max, Peacock, etc., and that list will probably grow. And we're at a low point in what we consider entertainment. It's bread and circuses up the wazoo. And n…

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