This won't end well. If they can't communicate a clear focus that doesn't change or require expanding on the details further, they probably don't have one.
Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"
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Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"
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Having the choice between 100% certain doom and 95% certain doom, I'd go for the second. Just not very enthusiastically.
I think this argument could go either way. As a "commodity" WP7 phone maker, Nokia might be able to get 20% of the WP7 market on brand recognition alone. But a crappified version of WP7 might earn them 0% of the market instead.
As someone who values a fairly broad oligarchy of phone ecosystems, I'm frightened that Nokia will have 20% of a WP7 market that is perhaps a little more than one or two million devices per year, and stagnant.
WP7 (or 8 for that matter) isn't going to be helped in this kind of scenario by a bleeding vendor that can't sell more than a few hundred thousand devices. As consumers, we're not going to be helped by the death-by-a-thousand-downsizings of Nokia (a business that has a good record otherwise of innovation in technology and market development, at least until the last few years) and a side show of a user community that can't support development of innovative software and business models.
Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"
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How many do they need ? They have the two largest smartphone manufacturers outside of Apple and RIM, in HTC and Samsung. Among the large manufacturers, all they are missing is Sony Ericsson and Motorola. And I believe only Motorola has hinted that they are Android only. And Nokia is still larger (not for long) than #2 and #3 in terms of worldwide sales.
Actually, they could line up a couple dozen WP7 phone manufacturers and still fail. What they need is not manufacturers, but people buying and using the phones. This is not happening.
They also need developers creating content for the platform, which isn't happening either. Chicken and an egg there, though.
Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually, they could line up a couple dozen WP7 phone manufacturers and still fail. What they need is not manufacturers, but people buying and using the phones. This is not happening.
They also need developers creating content for the platform, which isn't happening either. Chicken and an egg there, though.
>They also need developers creating content for the platform, which isn't happening either. Chicken and an egg there, though
It is, WP7 marketplace already has around 15,000 apps and is growing faster than the iPhone and Android stores at a similar stage.
Re: Nokia: "We will not adopt Windows Phone environment as it is seen today"
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>At the moment, I believe it is only the Android phones which sport GPS. Huh, almost every smartphone from the last 4 years sport GPS. What the agreement means is that Bing maps will be able to use Ovi maps in places where it's currently lacking, i.e Europe and Asia.
I think what 'teyc' meant was that Android is the only platform that offers free turn by turn navigation among the major platforms. Nokia has provided this recently with their version of Ovi Maps as well (not sure if it's free on all S60 devices). So it is possible that the Ovi Maps & Bing Maps integration may include bringing the free turn by turn navigation to Windows Phone 7.
Thanks.