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RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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For months now I have been using youtube-dl to preserve all the concerts and workout videos I like on YouTube because I don't expect this content to remain available and unencumbered. My original plan was to store just the IDs on GitHub so I could recreate the video libraries without backing up the video files, but already some of the concerts have been removed. I expect the exercise videos will be hidden behind a subscription at some point since they provide utility.

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No they're winning slowly. Fifteen years back everyone I know could easily download mp3 from various p2p applications. But now the present generation of youngsters seem to think it is Spotify/Amazon or nothing. They haven't even heard of p2p. Similarly Netflix is slowly eating away at torrenting. The platform owners can and will tighten the noose gradually. End users and hackers have much less power than they like to…

15 years back you had to buy a $20 CD to get access to 1 song you liked... Today for $9/mo (or nearly free with Amazon) you can listen to almost any song.... The lowering of costs, and easy access is what is driving lower use of p2p not RIAA lawsuits and more restrictions

Although I get your point, there is an important difference between those two though. Once you've bought the CD you can listen to it forever, that is not true for subscriptions - _that_ is why they are cheaper.

I kinda use a hybrid - I discover new music on free tier of subscription services, and once I identify songs that I love, I buy them from iTunes DRM-free. I'm just afraid that option won't remain there forever.

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> Canada has $5-$10/gb wireless pricing Well, if you are counting overage charges I guess. My (national) provider has an all-in, bring-your-own-device plan with 9GB of data (recently with a 2GB bonus, for a total of 11GB) for under $60/month. I'm sure the competitors are similar. So, while not perfect, it's not as onerous as you describe.

Even ignoring the fact that your plan as described falls within the specified range ($60/month/11 GB = $5.45/month/GB), I have never heard of plans or overage charges this cheap from any of the three major Canadian wireless providers. Last year, the three major providers simultaneously increased the price of the well-publicized $60/10 GB offer by at least $5/month. I'm not aware of any standard plans offering more fo…

>Even ignoring the fact that your plan as described falls within the specified range ($60/month/11 GB = $5.45/month/GB)

Are you talking about data only, or full phone service? Perhaps our calculations look different.

These plans includes: unlimited voice calling, texting, long distance, voicemail, call display, 5 hours of unlimited data per month (great for using a hotspot) and that amount of data.

The basic phone plan is about $30, so you're actually paying about $3 per GB. Overage is an admittedly ridiculous $15/GB.

This is Fido, owned by Rogers, obviously a major carrier. The standard plans aren't quite as good ($75 for 10GB), but there's always some kind of promotion going on. It's not wonderful when you see what some other countries are paying, but we're in a far better place than even a few years ago.

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Only in the eyes of the law. The RIAA can no more stop people from downloading YouTube videos than the DVD CCA could stop people from cracking CSS. Pirates haven't lost yet, only ever been delayed, and rarely by all that much. This battle has been going on since audio tape recorders and VCRs became a thing, and at some point various industries will have to accept copying as part of reality, and that it is incumbent o…

No they're winning slowly. Fifteen years back everyone I know could easily download mp3 from various p2p applications. But now the present generation of youngsters seem to think it is Spotify/Amazon or nothing. They haven't even heard of p2p. Similarly Netflix is slowly eating away at torrenting. The platform owners can and will tighten the noose gradually. End users and hackers have much less power than they like to…

I thought torrentting was back on the uptick because of the increasing platform fragmentation?

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Archive link (if your workplace has blocked this for piracy): https://web.archive.org/web/20201029112247/https://torrentfr...

Blocking a topical news site because you don't like the topic... that's an interesting workplace. Perhaps they don't want you reading the news during work time, but it sounds like TF is blocked for you for false reasons.

Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

#56
The RIAA behaves like the powerful in ancient times. But your gut feeling knows exactly when someone is wrong. Just because they refer to some law does not mean their actions are rigt. See „Ius primae noctis“ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_du_seigneur

Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Only in the eyes of the law. The RIAA can no more stop people from downloading YouTube videos than the DVD CCA could stop people from cracking CSS. Pirates haven't lost yet, only ever been delayed, and rarely by all that much. This battle has been going on since audio tape recorders and VCRs became a thing, and at some point various industries will have to accept copying as part of reality, and that it is incumbent o…

No they're winning slowly. Fifteen years back everyone I know could easily download mp3 from various p2p applications. But now the present generation of youngsters seem to think it is Spotify/Amazon or nothing. They haven't even heard of p2p. Similarly Netflix is slowly eating away at torrenting. The platform owners can and will tighten the noose gradually. End users and hackers have much less power than they like to…

But this boils down to convenience not prevention.

It's so, so easy to get access to a million pieces of media through the accounts your parents or siblings already have. Further those services provide specific family plans to make it even easier again.

As gaben said, "Piracy is almost always a service problem".

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#58
The whole reason if you are going to be on the radar of the RIAA, you need to be located in Russia, like Snowden. Russia does not extradite and Western lawyers would never show up in a Russian court or they rather conveniently end up floating face down in the Black sea, where many would argue lawyers deserve to end up anyway - - - if you read the press you discover Russians solve their disputes with hitmen, way cheaper than lawyers.

Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Does it permit it 100% of the time, or do you pay to discover that there’s a bunch of exceptions? And I guess once you stop paying, it’s all gone?

> discover that there’s a bunch of exceptions? Periodically the downloaded videos become unavailable offline if you don't have an internet connection to refresh them. Maybe once a month or something. Which means you can't hold on to a video through their service indefinitely.

Wait, how does that even work?
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