Isn't there a 1st-amendment exception for code? The code isn't violating any copyright.
YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
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#52How can a program be in violation of DMCA? Is a knife in violation of the criminal justice system because some people use it to kill and therefore no one can use it anywhere, ever? How ridiculous.
> Is a knife in violation of the criminal justice system because some people use it to kill and therefore no one can use it anywhere, ever? I mean, guns are banned in many countries using precisely the same reasoning. And I might totally be wrong about this but I heard that in the UK you need to be over 18 to buy even just kitchen knives.
In New York, you need to be over 18 to buy Sharpies and spray paint.
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#53Funny this happens right as everyone is scrambling to save JRE episodes, before he goes to Spotify.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just so you know, they expressly mention that’s not a good idea in the notice. Also, I'm just the messenger so please don't shoot/downvote me
Why wouldn't it be? Does this claim have any substance?
A claim like this is also a threat to the open-source software ecosystem.
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#55How can a program be in violation of DMCA? Is a knife in violation of the criminal justice system because some people use it to kill and therefore no one can use it anywhere, ever? How ridiculous.
They're probably claiming it's a circumvention device.
Some knives (switchblades and gravity knives especially) are illegal in most places. I think the UK is even stricter.
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#56Hope this motivates a few more free software devs to move away to a free host, at least apart from GH mirrors for exposure.
IUUC importing this to GitLab would have taken ~½dozen clicks and saved the open issues, etc.?
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#57I’ll admit that I’m ignorant of US law specifics here, and I’m not sure about YouTube’s DRM and/or policy regarding downloading videos is. So I’ll ask: is this DMCA request justified? Why would the RIAA be going after YouTube-dl, rather than Google? Wouldn’t it make more sense for the RIAA to go after YouTube instead?
I wonder why they don't go after Chrome and Firefox as well.
Give them time.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s probably a case of fair use but it’ll have to go to court to decide that
IANAL but I don't even think DMCA applies. It's not like YouTube-dl is breaking copy protection schemes, at most it is handling anti-abuse schemes. After all, it's not like you can go and bypass Widevine with youtube-dl.
Unfortunately, it is making a copy. These guys also fucked up by "marketing" it for use in circumventing such controls. They should have showed how to pull OCW lectures.
(a)(2)(C) is the part. IANAL but that's my take.
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#59Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA
#60Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…
IANAL, but regardless, according to RIAA, youtube-dl is circumventing the "DRM" built into YouTube, and therefore they're violating anti-circumvention parts of the DMCA. Therefore a DMCA claim can suffice to take it down.
Perhaps if youtube-dl used different examples (i.e. videos not protected by anti-circumvention) perhaps they could have avoided this.