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You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

#51

Alexa, show me how to drive a significant portion of your customer base towards unashamed piracy.

Significant portion of what kind of users exactly? Professionals upgrade their software and I could bet that 13 years old software is nowhere near of being significant. It’s the same kind of stupidity like shouting that Microsoft EOLed XP. ;-)

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

#52

And you can no longer use the 2008 version of Gmail. Adobe moved to a subscription model that has allowed them to stay alive as a business without monetizing you as the product like many other ad based businesses. Adobe gets trashed endlessly for this because we had a taste of the perpetual license long ago. But the perpetual license doesn't make sense with cloud based updates and document sync that everyone also exp…

However , their sale terms for cs2 did not say you can pay a lot of money to use till Adobe changrs their mind. Their license agreement said I can use as long as I wanted to

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

#53
post #7

"The aging activation servers for those apps had to be retired." Cry me a river - Adobe can't afford to keep an old server running? At least be honest about the motivation.

This reminds me of the old ESO servers for age of mythology/empires. Microsoft bought ESO, eventually I think in the late 00s they shut down the online multiplayer servers. But they weren't really shutdown, the certificate had actually expired. If you started up fiddler2 and did a little tinkering you could actually get connected to the servers through the game again.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

#54
Just swap "Adobe cs2" for a car so it gets a lot funnier

>>Sir, you are no longer allowed to use your car

>But I paid for it! It's my car!

>>Our aging servers had to be retired

>Can't you just turn off the checking so it won't cost you anything and I can keep using my car?

>>No sir, without the checking people would start pirating the car

> But you don't even sell this car anymore! So much so you don't even want to keep the servers online!

>>I'm sure you'll love the new model we are selling

> I don't need a new car! I already have one, fuck off! I'm just gonna use a crack

>> Sir it's illegal to run unauthorized software on your car

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

#55
post #36

This will be remembered as a dark age of humanity. Anything built or released in the early 21st century will simply become meaningless bytes to future generations.

I had this thought when watching a cold-case show awhile back. The detectives had dug out the original cassette tapes which helped "crack the case" - what are modern police departments doing? Hopefully this stuff isn't just in the cloud somewhere waiting to get lost? In 20 years will we have any ability whatsoever to recreate everything from today?

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

#56

And you can no longer use the 2008 version of Gmail. Adobe moved to a subscription model that has allowed them to stay alive as a business without monetizing you as the product like many other ad based businesses. Adobe gets trashed endlessly for this because we had a taste of the perpetual license long ago. But the perpetual license doesn't make sense with cloud based updates and document sync that everyone also exp…

> And you can no longer use the 2008 version of Gmail.

How is this relevant? Gmail has always been a remotely hosted service. This is about Photoshop CS, not CC.

And I do not expect old software to do cloud updates/document sync. I expect it to keep working as is.

I also can't stand the endless "Needs connectivity" and "Set up syncing now" in modern software.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

#57
post #36

This will be remembered as a dark age of humanity. Anything built or released in the early 21st century will simply become meaningless bytes to future generations.

Legally perhaps, most of these earlier software had plenty of cracks to bypass the early copy protection they used.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

#58
post #2

> You can no longer reinstall Creative Suite 2 or 3 even if you have the original installation disks. The aging activation servers for those apps had to be retired. I always wonder if a situation like this is legal. If I purchased a product and want to keep using it, what right does the seller have to prevent me from doing so x years later? Can I sue them for not selling me the product they said they were selling me?

Did you accept the agreement when installing?

> Did you accept the agreement when installing?

That actually doesn't matter if the terms are unreasonable.

Courts commonly understand that one-sided unreasonable licenses are unenforceable when litigated.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

#59
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This should be a requirement enforced by legislation.

IANAL, it is now abandonware and can be legally cracked (legislation past year or two).

I’m also not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that’s not a thing, at least in the US. Downloading/distributing abandonware is still piracy, it’s just much less likely anyone will care.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

#60
post #43

I don't have the original license agreements handy to determine whether this is the case, but I'm guessing the following are true: 1) Customers "agree" to binding arbitration 2) Adobe reserves the right to terminate your ability to install the software at any time If the above are not true, however, this seems like a nice target for an entrepreneurial class action lawyer. Of course, what we really need are some vastl…

The original EULA doesn’t say those things (CS3 was before the era where everything had an arbitration agreement stapled to it), but does say that the software is only warrantied for 90 days and that that is the only warranty you get unless you have a support contract. https://labs.adobe.com/technologies/eula/photoshopcs3.html

I'd bet there's some other law that applies when a product ceases functioning because it was, in a way, sabotaged by the manufacturer.
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