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Studies Point to Big Drop in Covid-19 Death Rates

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Re: Studies Point to Big Drop in Covid-19 Death Rates

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Except this is happening in countries and states with no mask wearing. So your null hypothesis is shot.

Point to me a single country or state "with no mask wearing". There are sane people (and believe it or not, a lot of them) everywhere, even where politicians are insane.

Uhh, famously, Sweden? Where have you been?

Re: Studies Point to Big Drop in Covid-19 Death Rates

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"So have death rates dropped because of improvements in treatments? Or is it because of the change in who's getting sick? " No, it's likely dropping because the virus is changing. There were several hundred variants of the virus by May (in the UK, most of which were found worldwide). It is a completely normal and expected event that a virus new to humans, will evolve to become less likely to either kill the host, or…

a virus new to humans, will evolve to become less likely to either kill the host Oh, come on, the pox had mortality > 30 %. Evolutionary pressure favours easy spreading.

If you want to learn more about smallpox go to this url: https://ourworldindata.org/smallpox

Re: Studies Point to Big Drop in Covid-19 Death Rates

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> Horwitz believes that mask-wearing may be helping by reducing the initial dose of virus a person receives, thereby lessening the overall severity of illness for many patients. Now if only we could drill this lesson into everyone's head.

Years of studying pointed in different directions. Now all of a sudden they work. Same with vaccinations - if you shortcut the process the acceptance rate will drop significantly

Years of studying what?

Re: Studies Point to Big Drop in Covid-19 Death Rates

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Point to me a single country or state "with no mask wearing". There are sane people (and believe it or not, a lot of them) everywhere, even where politicians are insane.

Uhh, famously, Sweden? Where have you been?

As I said, politicians asking people not to wear masks != no people wearing masks. And here's a Reuters report from two months ago saying mask sales soared, picturing at least one person wearing mask: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-sweden...

Re: Studies Point to Big Drop in Covid-19 Death Rates

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Point to me a single country or state "with no mask wearing". There are sane people (and believe it or not, a lot of them) everywhere, even where politicians are insane.

Uhh, famously, Sweden? Where have you been?

A search shows 14% mask wearing in Sweden.

Re: Studies Point to Big Drop in Covid-19 Death Rates

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Point to me a single country or state "with no mask wearing". There are sane people (and believe it or not, a lot of them) everywhere, even where politicians are insane.

Uhh, famously, Sweden? Where have you been?

Sweden is the best example, although not necessarily a model of success.

https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/

Re: Studies Point to Big Drop in Covid-19 Death Rates

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I'm not so sure this is true. Here in the UK the deaths are climbing back up again as the second wave comes in. Yesterday we had 241 Covid-19 fatalities, a number not seen since the start of June. Additionally, the way the UK is counting deaths changed a few months ago. Originally we were counting everyone that had been diagnosed with Covid, now if the death doesn't occur within 28 days of infection the death isn't c…

That fatalities are going up as cases are going up is expected, but compare the rate of increase now with those during the first wave in March: significant quantitative difference.

People are quite clearly dying at slower rate than in March, while the weekly rate of new cases is growing faster now than they did in March.

Re: Studies Point to Big Drop in Covid-19 Death Rates

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I'm not so sure this is true. Here in the UK the deaths are climbing back up again as the second wave comes in. Yesterday we had 241 Covid-19 fatalities, a number not seen since the start of June. Additionally, the way the UK is counting deaths changed a few months ago. Originally we were counting everyone that had been diagnosed with Covid, now if the death doesn't occur within 28 days of infection the death isn't c…

>Yesterday we had 241 Covid-19 fatalities

Yesterday, 241 Covid-19 fatalities were reported, with the actual dates of death spread out over the previous days/weeks.

Edit: Just for extra clarity - we don't know how many died of Covid yesterday, due to reporting delays. There is data for "Covid deaths by date of death", but it always has a slight drop off due to these reporting delays.

Re: Studies Point to Big Drop in Covid-19 Death Rates

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post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Years of studying pointed in different directions. Now all of a sudden they work. Same with vaccinations - if you shortcut the process the acceptance rate will drop significantly

Years of studying what?

They meant masks

Re: Studies Point to Big Drop in Covid-19 Death Rates

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uhh, famously, Sweden? Where have you been?

A search shows 14% mask wearing in Sweden.

Do you recommend 14% mask wearing in the US? What's the current rate in the US? Is there a big difference between the outcomes of 14% and whatever the rate is in the US?
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