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Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by brigandish »

toxyplasma wrote: post #24

I don't have papers handy but I've been using L. Sakei nasal probiotics to treat CRS quite effectively. Not quite cured yet after 5 days but much, much better.

Thanks for bringing this up, I've been wondering lately whether this is an avenue I could explore but it seems others are ahead of me! I already make my own sauerkraut but I'm going to try making kimchi, and I'll get hold of some of the probiotics too.

I found these articles on the subject with my first search and they're already opening my eyes:

- Loss of normal microbial diversity may be culprit behind chronic sinusitis https://www.news-medical.net/news/20120913/Loss-of-normal-mi...

- The Best Probiotic For Sinus Infections https://lactobacto.com/2018/11/05/the-best-probiotic-for-sin...

This article titled "New ways to flush out sinus infections" I found because of another comment but the doctor here also mentions bacterial balance:

> Current research in my field suggests this may be caused by the disruption of the natural bacterial habitat of the sinuses by the antibiotics, which is why more doctors are utilizing probiotics

https://www.bcm.edu/news/new-ways-to-flush-sinus-infection

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Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by vram22 »

Jalaneti (jala is water in Sanskrit, so water neti[1], it is a yoga practice) may help with sinus and other nasal congestion problems. It seems to, for me, anecdotally.

Standard disclaimer: not a doctor.

But I have been doing jalaneti for years, since my teens. First learned about it from a course at the Yoga Institute[2] of Santa Cruz, Mumbai, India.

After jalaneti the nasal passages feel very clean for sometime, and breathing is more free. You can do it once or twice a day. Used with caution, it is not dangerous for healthy adults.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neti_(Hatha_Yoga) You can ignore the clairvoyance claim.

[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yoga_Institute

https://theyogainstitute.org/

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by vram22 »

8bitsrule wrote: post #43
codr7 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to have serious sinus issues but these days it's mostly fine. What changed everything for me was Yogic nose cleansing, running body temperatured salt water through the sinuses on a daily basis. The first few weeks I had really weird stuff coming out with the water, definitely not something you'd want clogged up in your sinuses.

Yep. When my Dr. diagnosed sinusitis, he suggested trying Neti Pot. It helps a lot.

Said same here in this thread, with more details and corroborating links:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24784494

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Post by fao_ »

joshspankit wrote: post #42
aantix wrote: post #39

Flush your sinuses with baby shampoo. It’s the only thing that has relieved the pressure long term for me. https://www.bcm.edu/news/new-ways-to-flush-sinus-infection

Please take this as surprise and curiosity: HOW IS THIS A THING?? Have you noticed any side effects? Do you have to use sterilized water? How do you do the actual flushing??

"There is a risk of infection if the water is not sterile or the device is not cleaned after use. If the device is used improperly this can be harmful.[4] In fact, proper application suggests the use of boiled water or saline water. In 2018, a patient was reported to have contracted Balamuthia mandrillaris after one month of using tap water filtered through a Brita water purifier for nasal irrigation.[5]

Rare cases of fatal naegleriasis have occurred due to nasal insufflation of the amoeba Naegleria fowleri (the "brain-eating amoeba") from untreated tap water. In 2011, two people died from Naegleria fowleri infections tied to using Neti pots containing tap water.[6]"

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Nasal_irrigation

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by h2odragon »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #48
h2odragon wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any autoimmune problems? Thick fluids can be a sign of cystic fibrosis and similar non-fun.

None that I'm aware of. Would this be the only manifestation?

probably not but some can kick in later in life too. theres a cheap "sweat salinity" test they give to newborns a doctor can do to rule out a family of such things.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by NNHBdcfm6VKQ »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #40
nradov wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried an elimination diet to check whether it could be a reaction to something you're consuming?

I've tried the following things: - Claritin - Flonase - Ranitidine (Zantac) - Omeprazole - A diet based around avoiding things that "might" cause heartburn. This list included literally everything I eat; this project had to be abandoned. But for a while there I was basically only eating chicken soup and milk. - An allergy battery (negative on all tests) - Nasal irrigation - Mucinex

Have you tried the "functional medicine" approach to treating heartburn?

The theory is: instead of "too much stomach acid" being the problem, sometimes it's "too little stomach acid". Age, medications, and infections may all lead to reduced stomach acid production, which leads to unwanted fermentation and impaired digestion of carbohydrates in the stomach, which increases the production of gas, which increases intra-abdominal pressure, which causes the lower esophageal sphincter to malfunction and let the little acid that is left travel up into the esophagus, where it irritates the lining and can cause symptoms like you describe.

Might be worth looking into. A simple way to test this theory would be to get a "Betaine HCL with Pepsin" supplement and take it with meals to see if that helps. Do not try this if you have ulcers or other issues with the integrity of your stomach lining.

I only mention it because this approach cured my persistent heartburn and sore throat issues, after various PPIs worked for a bit and then failed. Conventional medicine is great, but why they continue to recommend PPIs for chronic GERD cases is a mystery to me. The stomach is meant to be acidic - the goal should not be to neutralize the acid.

Good luck!

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Post by dmix »

nostromo wrote: post #21
dmix wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This fits the 'novel, unexpected, and unusual' byline that provide the perfect butter for things to go viral. Pseudo-science often has these features sadly (not to assume he's wrong here, even clocks strikes right, etc). Edit: coldcure.com was recently sold off but prior to that it had a long history of hocking naturpath "common cold cure" pills https://web.archive.org/web/20060103011343/http://www.coldcu... From a 1…

Zinc does seem to shorten the common cold though, although less than originally thought. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_and_the_common_cold

Even it’s that’s the case seeing how his sales page pushes it as a “cure” from common colds.

He seems to hold a lower standard of scientific proof than one would hope and put his name and reputation on the line to back it up.

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Post by jnwatson »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #32
scrozart wrote: post #10

This is meat, and I'll be forwarding it to my ENT and allergist. I have chronic sinus issues that so far have yet to respond to much.

I have an issue which may or may not be a sinus issue: I have phlegm in my throat, constantly. I need to clear my throat (through voluntary coughing) every few minutes. If I don't do that, the phlegm dries in place and I end up with a restricted airway and difficulty breathing. I can't really sing because my voice will catch on the phlegm. If you know of anyone with this symptom, or who is familiar with this symptom,…

Post nasal drip? That doesn't really narrow down the cause though. Could be allergies, deviated septum, viral infection, a whole host of things.

If it is post nasal drip, pseudoephedrine/Sudafed would clear it right up, if only for a few hours. I wouldn't recommend being on that long term, but it is probably worth an experiment.

You didn't say you saw a pulmonologist. I just read about a guy that discovered he had CF at 55 years old.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by brsanders »

frompdx wrote: post #8

An hour a day is a lot. However, as someone who suffers from allergies and is not able to control symptoms with allergy medications alone, I am willing to give it a try (although this method is intended to treat irritation from fungus). Incidentally, this reminds me of something very similar for treating COPD called the "Lung Flute". It also works by using low frequency vibrations to clear the airways in the lungs. h…

another anecdote, but i was having chronic chest pains and unsure why. it felt to me like some sort of mild infection, and discomfort. typical for me, i reluctantly went to the doctor, they couldn't find anything, and all my tests checked out fine. every few saturdays during the lockdown, myself and my neighbors/close friends would have some mushrooms. one time i was laughing a lot for an extended period of time, like really laughing, and it made me cough up some mucus, and that cleared me instantly of my ongoing chest pain. no doubt that unconventional "treatments" or solutions can help certain ailments, or at the very least, hearing other people's experiences can help when highly, maybe overly, trained professionals may miss the simplicity of a problem.

Re: Strong humming for one hour daily to terminate chronic rhinosinusitis (2006)

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Post by hinkley »

ahstilde wrote: post #50
frompdx wrote: post #8

An hour a day is a lot. However, as someone who suffers from allergies and is not able to control symptoms with allergy medications alone, I am willing to give it a try (although this method is intended to treat irritation from fungus). Incidentally, this reminds me of something very similar for treating COPD called the "Lung Flute". It also works by using low frequency vibrations to clear the airways in the lungs. h…

Have you tied immunotherapy? It's become much easier in the USA recently with the arrival of allergy drops. see Wyndly Health https://www.wyndly.com

Idiopathic rhinitis: you’re having a histamine reaction but you have no antibodies for any allergens.

Basically, you’re allergic to dust. I don’t think they’ve worked out how to treat for that.

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