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Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by lallysingh »

ognarb wrote: post #40
eitland wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone should dig out the relevant source code for you to fix it. I'm sure a good PR will be well received :-)

The UI code for the system tray can be found here: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/tree/master... and the HiddenItemsView.qml is the part show on the screenshot. MR are always welcome.

> cellWidth: hiddenTasks.width / hiddenTasks.columns > cellHeight: hiddenTasks.height / hiddenTasks.rows

Looks like the window should default smaller to make the sizes reasonable, or whatever decides the columns/row counts needs some tweaking.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

#52

Post by InfiniteRand »

vanderZwan wrote: post #24
neilsimp1 wrote: post #3

People using KDE Plasma and not using some sort of rolling release distro are missing out, I think. 5.18 LTS was a very very solid release, but 5.19 and 5.20 have so much new that it's a bummer for people whose distros won't be seeing them any time soon.

On the other hand, I'm running KDE Neon (the "stable" version, insofar as there is one) where everything is supposed to "just work" and even there I got a really dumb dependency error this morning[0] that lead to KWIN almost automatically uninstalling itself to "fix" the problem. This has happened a few times in the last months - including the desktop wanting to uninstall itself. Of course I know how to behave in tha…

I really think Linux should make it harder somehow to uninstall critical parts of your operating system.

I'm sure it might not be easy to work out a mechanism for this that would not add friction for those who need to swap out large components of their desktop experience, but I personally think this is one of those things that sometimes really scares people about Linux (along with rm -Rf /)

Every couple years I find myself not paying enough attention to the apt update text and then I end up swearing off any interaction with Linux for months.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

#53

Post by eitland »

vvillena wrote: post #42
swebs wrote: post #25

So how do I install it on Ubuntu?

KDE is probably too much of a core package to install, unless you are doing for the fun of it. The best way would be to wait until Ubuntu ships it in its next release.

Or reinstall KDE Neon which is Ubuntu base with KDE on top. That's what I've been running as my main desktop at home for 5 years or so and at work on and off for 5 years.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

#54

Post by mpol »

vanderZwan wrote: post #24
neilsimp1 wrote: post #3

People using KDE Plasma and not using some sort of rolling release distro are missing out, I think. 5.18 LTS was a very very solid release, but 5.19 and 5.20 have so much new that it's a bummer for people whose distros won't be seeing them any time soon.

On the other hand, I'm running KDE Neon (the "stable" version, insofar as there is one) where everything is supposed to "just work" and even there I got a really dumb dependency error this morning[0] that lead to KWIN almost automatically uninstalling itself to "fix" the problem. This has happened a few times in the last months - including the desktop wanting to uninstall itself. Of course I know how to behave in tha…

To be fair, that is not "the desktop wanting to uninstall itself", as if it is a problem in Plasma, but it is the package manager wanting to uninstall the desktop. It seems to be a problem with the Ubuntu packages. If the same thing happened a few times, maybe it is time for a bugreport at Ubuntu.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

#55

Post by Zhyl »

Would someone from the KDE team be able to give an update on the Valve funding for KDE? [0]

I remember being quite happy when I heard this, as it might be paving the way for a renewed SteamOS initiative, or another Linux offensive, but I don't follow KDE closely and I haven't heard anything since around the time of this article.

Any indication of what was achieved and what has happened since would be interesting to me!

[0] - https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Valve-Fu...

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

#56

Post by laszlokorte »

Sorry for the snarky comment but that you can clearly see the promoted KRunner search box flickering and reflowing in the promotional video is exemplary for the quality differences between mac, windows and linux desktop environments.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

#57

Post by ubercow13 »

InfiniteRand wrote: post #52
vanderZwan wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, I'm running KDE Neon (the "stable" version, insofar as there is one) where everything is supposed to "just work" and even there I got a really dumb dependency error this morning[0] that lead to KWIN almost automatically uninstalling itself to "fix" the problem. This has happened a few times in the last months - including the desktop wanting to uninstall itself. Of course I know how to behave in tha…

I really think Linux should make it harder somehow to uninstall critical parts of your operating system. I'm sure it might not be easy to work out a mechanism for this that would not add friction for those who need to swap out large components of their desktop experience, but I personally think this is one of those things that sometimes really scares people about Linux (along with rm -Rf /) Every couple years I find…

Why would apt uninstall things automatically? I’ve never noticed pacman doing that but maybe I’m lucky

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

#58

Post by JW_00000 »

amelius wrote: post #27
thomond wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Well maybe it's what everyone else wants. Either way it's just the default they're changing, one good thing about grouping in Plasma is it lets you exclude certain applications so you can exclude your PDF viewer. Alot of other environments give an all or nothing approach.

> Well maybe it's what everyone else wants. Could you give an argument for why someone would want it?

For me mentally, it makes more sense that all windows of the same application are grouped. In your example, when I want to focus the PDF file, I first look for the icon of my PDF viewer and I don't want there to be three icons; I want just one icon and if I (right)click it get a list in which I see the window titles.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

#60

Post by JW_00000 »

kuschku wrote: post #50

I’ve been using Plasma for years, but after this release talking so much about the wayland improvements, the actual result is more than disappointing. First, to explain my setup: I've got a Dell UP2718Q in landscape, 3840x2160, 10-bit in DCI-P3 colorspace at 1.5x scale at 60Hz, side-by-side with a Fujitsu Siemens P17-2 in portrait, 1024x1280, 8-bit in sRGB colorspace at 1x scale at 75Hz 10-bit support isn’t there yet…

Can I ask how you managed to set a different scale factor for each screen? In the system settings I can only find a global scale factor... Or is this only supported using Wayland?
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