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Re: Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for durable products

#51
I've thought about building something like this for a while. There is definitely a need.

I've found a huge problem with products is that their quality changes over time. So, a product may be named the same but the SKU changes or the products from a couple of years back were much better made for whatever reason while the company has gutted them and continues to sell on reputation. I've wondered if there's a way to track product changes (user reported maybe?) between revisions of products on a wide scale. Can you convert the "years owned" to a purchase date somewhere? Are you tracking SKUs?

How will you handle fake reviews?

Re: Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for durable products

#53
I have been meaning to develop the exact same thing (I was going to call it lastsforever.store), but just never found the time. Thanks for putting this out there. I'd say it's still a little rough on the edges, but should have potential.

What I honestly dislike, however, is to see all the google tracking going on there... is that really necessary?

Re: Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for durable products

#54

Cool project. How do you intend to keep ratings aligned with durability rather than “I bought this a few weeks ago and really like it so I’ll give it 5 stars!”?

Yeah, it would only really be valuable / trustworthy if the reviewer was verified to have bought and owned the product for x years; I'm not sure if there's an automated way to do that, unless one interfaces with the various sellers of products (e.g. Amazon, but you won't get much BIFL stuff from Amazon compared to the manufacturer's shops / physical shops).

Re: Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for durable products

#55

Cool project. How do you intend to keep ratings aligned with durability rather than “I bought this a few weeks ago and really like it so I’ll give it 5 stars!”?

The weight of the rating will be weighted based on the "years owned" of a review and the trustworthiness score of the reviewer.

How do you manage trustworthiness? This is an issue I've been thinking about for quite some time and haven't found a satisfactory solution to.

I like this idea and a lot of similar information sharing sites but I find in today's environment, anything successful will be targeted by misinformation and gamed which makes it difficult to determine if the information was provided in an uninfluenfed manner from the product creator/retailer/etc. who have obvious conflicted goals.

The best efforts seem to be information sites that are successful enough to gather enough data to represent something accurately from a user base but not so successful it becomes a target for corporate advertising and marketing groups. Reddit communities still provides some of this but have become a target for advertising as well and also are more difficult to extract useful information from.

Amazon has "verified purchase" which is still gamed using other techniques. I've found the best model is still Consumer Reports for fair product assessments but they only speculate on durability since it would be incredibly difficult for their product assessment model (new products rolling out frequently, modified/re-released/etc and limited staff/personal time to keep up with).

Re: Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for durable products

#56

Cool project. How do you intend to keep ratings aligned with durability rather than “I bought this a few weeks ago and really like it so I’ll give it 5 stars!”?

Yeah, it would only really be valuable / trustworthy if the reviewer was verified to have bought and owned the product for x years; I'm not sure if there's an automated way to do that, unless one interfaces with the various sellers of products (e.g. Amazon, but you won't get much BIFL stuff from Amazon compared to the manufacturer's shops / physical shops).

Maybe just a trust system, with the ability to update reviews in future would be a good start.

Re: Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for durable products

#57
post #52

Previous: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23030451 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22804573 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22717494 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22523434 And more

I'm impressed at the tenacity. OP finally got the pop s/he was looking for!

Re: Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for durable products

#58
post #52

Previous: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23030451 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22804573 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22717494 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22523434 And more

I constantly tried to get feedback to validate the idea. As I mentioned before, it started as a simple list of brands and has now evolved into a full platform, thanks to feedback from users :) It seems that HackerNews user want a certain maturity of a product/website.

Re: Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for durable products

#59

How did you handle difference in personal scale. An A- from two people are not always on same scale. If a person looking at these reviews has an internal scale different from the existing reviews, they may not be making an optimal choice. Sometimes the issue is minimized by simply very large number of reviews..

A million years ago, during the "Netflix Challenge", I built a purely statistical model that briefly scored high enough to go onto their leader board. The (temporary) success of that model was large due to handling this question reasonably.

I theorized that reviewers would have their own scale, both in median (maybe they only give 4s and 5s), as well as range (a lot of people only give 1s and 5, losing all the resolution of the middle). My solution was to continuously keep each reviewer's ratings normalized both to the centerpoint (each review would have a delta added to it to re-center) as well as to standard deviation (each review would be scaled so that their overall stdev would be 1.0). The result is that everyone would look like a nice normal curve around 3.0.

This has a nice side effect of diluting ratings spam, too. If somebody spams 5s, they wind up being just average 3s. Even if they spam 1s and 5s, they're at least normalized to a lower spread.

Re: Show HN: I built a Rotten Tomatoes-style platform for durable products

#60
Interesting, I hope you are onto something!

How would you prevent me from taking some $ from Corporate to write a genuine sounding but heavily biased review?

I am not trying to be snarky, but in my understanding that is exactly how micro-influencing on Instagram etc. works and IMO its very dangerous for your value proposition.

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