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I recall from Chemistry: When hydrocarbons combust, the outputs generally are CO2 and Water. Driven home by living with a gearhead after college. At least some of the liquid dripping from tailpipes is water.
Also relevant if you've ever looked into what a modern "condensing" boiler/furnace is: https://www.ernstheating.com/blog/condensing-furnaces/ A consequence of the secondary heat exchanger is that a bunch of the steam from the exhaust condenses back into water, and unfortunately it's water containing a bunch of heavy metals and other nasty stuff, which usually ends up flushed into the municipal sanitary sewer. Probabl…
When we lose weight, where does it go?
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Re: When we lose weight, where does it go?
#52So if we're constantly breathing in a certain volume of gas and then breathing out that same volume of gas, then it would stand to reason that we have to be losing weight continuously, because CO2 has a higher molar mass than O2.
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#53The story is (likely purposefully) ignoring some other ways you can "lose weight/energy" from your body. But I am curious what would the complete list be... * heat (the most obvious one, not explicitly mentioned I guess?) * even in healthy humans, some fatty acids are excreted with bile into the gut and subsequently removed via feces * if you are fasting (or in ketosis, such as via keto diet) you will exhale / sweat…
tears, mucus, dead skin cells, skin oils.
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I can't image that the mechanism isn't taught. I mean, this is basic biology that we probably all learned in middle school, and certainly had to learn in chemistry class. But I think we just fail to put 2-and-2 together, even the teachers. I think I was in my late 20s when it dawned on me that I was exhaling the food I ate. But I came to that realization in a matter of seconds based on first principles--principles le…
> I think I was in my late 20s when it dawned on me that I was exhaling the food I ate. But I came to that realization in a matter of seconds based on first principles--principles learned in middle and high school. But as noted elsewhere in the thread, you mostly aren't exhaling your food. Respiration is a reaction that takes in O2 and produces CO2. The only thing you can get rid of by breathing is carbon. But you ne…
My point is that you can get an incredible amount of mileage from the most basic principles taught in school. Which is literally the point of a basic education. But people tend to emphasize "don't believe everything you learn in school" rather than "most of what you're taught in school are foundational truths to your environment that can have immense utility in your day-to-day life." If you focus on the former rather than the latter, you won't get into the habit of learning how to apply your knowledge. And if you're not well practiced at application--which is a life-long endeavor for even the most basic rules--then superficially that knowledge tends to seem useless.
I never studied computer science in college--I was already writing Perl and JavaScript when I entered a 101 course which was teaching Pascal, and I dropped it the next week. But I did end up learning--and still learn--the theory and its application. I often hear computer science graduates lament that they never actually need to apply what they learned in school in their professional lives. Well, "need" and "can" are two different things and it's a choice you make. Failure to rigorously apply even basic principles is a big reason, IME, why so much software is utter crap. Do you need to consider algorithmic complexity for every little script you write? Yes! Not because it necessarily matters to the performance of the script, per se, but because the script will be part of a larger data processing system, and the way it fits into and shapes that system can and often will effect algorithmic efficiency down the line.
It's a useful skill to apply first principles to everything you encounter in life. Not just scientific principles, but moral and emotional principles, too.
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Is it safe to say that taking an apple and manipulating it without adding anything to it could never INCREASE the calories available? So is the reason that the calorie content in the apple changes in blending due to how difficult (or not difficult) it is to digest?
What do you mean by "available"? Fire was an important technology because it allows us to predigest food, getting more out of eating the same amount of stuff. This certainly does increase the calories available in the ordinary usage of the phrase -- but so does the blender example.
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> I think I was in my late 20s when it dawned on me that I was exhaling the food I ate. But I came to that realization in a matter of seconds based on first principles--principles learned in middle and high school. But as noted elsewhere in the thread, you mostly aren't exhaling your food. Respiration is a reaction that takes in O2 and produces CO2. The only thing you can get rid of by breathing is carbon. But you ne…
Sure, "it's more complicated". But the most basic, predominate mechanism is that you're literally burning carbon and exhaling CO2. Only from that realization can you start to identify and answer more sophisticated questions, including the exceptions. My point is that you can get an incredible amount of mileage from the most basic principles taught in school. Which is literally the point of a basic education. But peop…
Well, again, you're burning oil (or if you're starving, meat), not carbon. It's mostly carbon by mass, but not by molarity.
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#58Water and CO2? (And, of course, some other byproducts, but by and large.) I mean, I think this is a well-known answer, no? Sorry I don't mean to sound facetious, I haven't opened the article, so I may be surprised, but I thought this was standard knowledge (at least, it was taught in middle school and high school, even though that's been a while ago for me).
Our school did not taught that.
Mind you, a lot of things were not taught in UK schools in the 80s... education was pretty rubbish back then.
Re: When we lose weight, where does it go?
#59The story is (likely purposefully) ignoring some other ways you can "lose weight/energy" from your body. But I am curious what would the complete list be... * heat (the most obvious one, not explicitly mentioned I guess?) * even in healthy humans, some fatty acids are excreted with bile into the gut and subsequently removed via feces * if you are fasting (or in ketosis, such as via keto diet) you will exhale / sweat…
Re: When we lose weight, where does it go?
#60> Even the 150 doctors, dietitians and personal trainers we surveyed shared this surprising gap in their health literacy. The most common misconception by far, was that fat is converted to energy. The problem with this theory is that it violates the law of conservation of matter, which all chemical reactions obey. For reference, if losing 10 pounds of body weight corresponded meant it was converted to energy complete…
> This is an oversimplification It's perhaps the most pernicious misunderstanding of calories on the internet. All calories are not created equal. Even just taking the same ingredient (say, an apple) and preparing it (say, by sticking the apple in a Blendtec Blender vs eating it whole) changes the amount of calories available for absorption.