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Google/Fitbit will monetise health data and harm consumers

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Re: Google/Fitbit will monetise health data and harm consumers

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Why don't people just count their steps or breaths and use pencil and paper? I don't see these products doing anything exceptionally useful and now they are harming people.

Unless you a training to a specification (e.g. exert this many ft-lbs of force) it's just motivation.

Re: Google/Fitbit will monetise health data and harm consumers

#52

Is there any brand of wrist sensor that doesn't require you to upload your data to their servers by any chance? I love the fitbit sensor, but I wish I could opt out of the server side of the things

Samsung Galaxy Watch / Samsung Gear series and Apple Watch can both sync data only to the phone without uploading it to cloud.

Re: Google/Fitbit will monetise health data and harm consumers

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When the user clicks on specially targeted ads, they reveal themselves to be part of the group and are individually identifiable.

To a first approximation, yes. There isn't any authentication around following an ad link, so technically anyone could click the ad. But practically, no; nobody's going to randomly click an ad link someone else handed them for funsies. In the common case, the ad company will be able to do conversions on the target demo (and make strong assumptions about the target demo, even if Google doesn't explicitly leak that dat…

I wonder if it'd make sense to have a plugin that'd share ad links in a p2p network just to screw with these people.

Re: Google/Fitbit will monetise health data and harm consumers

#54

You can sync Garmin (many devices) health tracker data locally via USB cable or wireless receiver, then parse/graph with OSS scripts: Code: https://github.com/tcgoetz/GarminDB & https://github.com/mrihtar/Garmin-FIT Wireless receiver: https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/10997 & https://www.thisisant.com/

Imagine trying to explain this to your elderly mother... She doesn't want to learn software development (even basic levels) just to use a wearable health monitoring device

Re: Google/Fitbit will monetise health data and harm consumers

#55
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To a first approximation, yes. There isn't any authentication around following an ad link, so technically anyone could click the ad. But practically, no; nobody's going to randomly click an ad link someone else handed them for funsies. In the common case, the ad company will be able to do conversions on the target demo (and make strong assumptions about the target demo, even if Google doesn't explicitly leak that dat…

I wonder if it'd make sense to have a plugin that'd share ad links in a p2p network just to screw with these people.

That's click-fraud, and Google at least attempts to identify it (so they're not charging for false ad views).

No idea if they share the "That click was fraud" signal with their clients for this kind of display ad.

Re: Google/Fitbit will monetise health data and harm consumers

#56

Why don't people just count their steps or breaths and use pencil and paper? I don't see these products doing anything exceptionally useful and now they are harming people. Unless you a training to a specification (e.g. exert this many ft-lbs of force) it's just motivation.

Most people aren't mindful enough or free enough to do those things. By the latter, I mean they're multitasking. And then some people have ADHD and other things.

Re: Google/Fitbit will monetise health data and harm consumers

#57

You can sync Garmin (many devices) health tracker data locally via USB cable or wireless receiver, then parse/graph with OSS scripts: Code: https://github.com/tcgoetz/GarminDB & https://github.com/mrihtar/Garmin-FIT Wireless receiver: https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/10997 & https://www.thisisant.com/

Imagine trying to explain this to your elderly mother... She doesn't want to learn software development (even basic levels) just to use a wearable health monitoring device

Business opportunity for home device for use by mere mortals, e.g. smartphone UI to data on local NAS. ANT can sync automatically when within range.

Re: Google/Fitbit will monetise health data and harm consumers

#58
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if it'd make sense to have a plugin that'd share ad links in a p2p network just to screw with these people.

That's click-fraud, and Google at least attempts to identify it (so they're not charging for false ad views). No idea if they share the "That click was fraud" signal with their clients for this kind of display ad.

What about AdNauseum? Same basic premise.

Re: Google/Fitbit will monetise health data and harm consumers

#59
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if it'd make sense to have a plugin that'd share ad links in a p2p network just to screw with these people.

That's click-fraud, and Google at least attempts to identify it (so they're not charging for false ad views). No idea if they share the "That click was fraud" signal with their clients for this kind of display ad.

Click fraud sounds like an ominous term. But let's be real here. We aren't truly opting into all this tracking. I'd rather call it anonymous clicks. As for Google trying to resist it, I strongly suspect there isn't a network actively trying to give privacy back to the people.

On a related tangent, CloudFlare creating a Google Analytics tracker could help lessen Google's tracking. But this battle should've been waged about 10 years ago. It's a shame that Hydra has many formidable heads.

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