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Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Post by ashleshbiradar »

sidmkp96 wrote: post #47

HN should take down this post. The country has been heavily polarized into two sections (pro-bjp and against-bjp) with both the sections heavily incentivised by the "IT" deptt of respective political parties. Very few will talk about the actual issue and most of the comments will be rhetorical, only focusing on what they believe is right.

this post is from a reputed source, I see no reason why it should be taken down. As far as I am concerned, this is not a subjective thing, the crack down on Amnesty International in the country is not subject to individual opinions.

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Post by ninjahatori1 »

xrisk wrote: post #41
sbmthakur wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to AlJazeera, Afzal Guru is just a "Kashmiri separatist". I guess they missed the part where he was convicted for attacking the Indian parliament [1]. Interesting that Amnesty International questioned the way he was tried and punished[2]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Indian_Parliament_attack 2. https://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/india-ne...

Also interesting that they did not find a shred of evidence in that case. In fact the order mentioned that he was convicted to placate the “conscience of the nation”.

when was he hanged?

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Post by ranjitcool1 »

deskamess wrote: post #42
apexkid wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amnesty's resources are better spent in operating in those countries where there is no democracy such as middle east, africa, china, etc. Good they got an exit from India where they are useless :)

> in those countries where there is no democracy such as middle east, africa, china, etc Only one of those is a country. Do you actually think India is better off than South Africa or Botswana (these are actual countries).

Your line of questioning tells me you have little to no knowledge, period. Visit India and figure it out yourself. Comparing India to SA or Bowtswana tells me that You weren’t taught well, so not your fault, it’s ok, there is still time for you to go back to school.

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Post by sbmthakur »

xrisk wrote: post #41
sbmthakur wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to AlJazeera, Afzal Guru is just a "Kashmiri separatist". I guess they missed the part where he was convicted for attacking the Indian parliament [1]. Interesting that Amnesty International questioned the way he was tried and punished[2]. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Indian_Parliament_attack 2. https://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/india-ne...

Also interesting that they did not find a shred of evidence in that case. In fact the order mentioned that he was convicted to placate the “conscience of the nation”.

Supreme court had concluded that he arranged logistics and explosives for the attackers. I am not sure how they arrived at that conclusion without a "shred of evidence".

https://scroll.in/article/805427/the-quick-guide-to-sar-gila...

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Post by sumedh »

sidmkp96 wrote: post #47

HN should take down this post. The country has been heavily polarized into two sections (pro-bjp and against-bjp) with both the sections heavily incentivised by the "IT" deptt of respective political parties. Very few will talk about the actual issue and most of the comments will be rhetorical, only focusing on what they believe is right.

> only focusing on what they believe is right.

So what is "right" as per your belief?

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Post by yxhuvud »

apexkid wrote: post #28
apexkid wrote: post #24

Indians are very pleased at this decision. Amnesty has been a major organization to hold biased views of human rights of terrorist in Kashmir without accounting for the loss of citizens life that are damaged due to terrorism. Their agenda has always been motivated while operating in India. A diverse and large country like India doesn't need such an organization preaching whats right. India is largest democracy on fac…

Amnesty's resources are better spent in operating in those countries where there is no democracy such as middle east, africa, china, etc. Good they got an exit from India where they are useless :)

They could also chose to operate in regions where there is no democracy. Like in the Kashmir region.

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Post by sshlocalhost »

vestingz wrote: post #39
apexkid wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is all motivated reporting. India has such a strong and independent judicial system which does its job. If any charges are put incorrectly then courts will grant relief. India is democratic country.

If ever, courts will act a couple of years after the case. The judicial system is close to non-functional due to underfunding and mismanagement and lately due to political influence by the current fascist regime. The global public is slowly getting aware of all the human rights abuses happening in the country - good. India will only be a true democracy when Hinduism, which manifests in the caste system and brahmanic…

> India will only be a true democracy when Hinduism, which manifests in the caste system and brahmanic supremacy, will be annihilated.

Your hatred for Hinduism is shocking! I am utterly disappointing to read this in HN (a tech news discussion). Just for your info, all people regardless of religions have caste in India including Sikhs, Chritsians and muslims . Define "brahmanic supremacy". Brahmins are a group of people living by conducting temple rituals and they are mostly poor. The politicians are using religion as a weapon for increasing their votes. Can we stop using religion when discussing here ?

References: https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/are-brahmins-today-s-da...

Re: Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Post by iKevinShah »

One thing that comments so far down here do not highlight is that there was a recent change in the Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act where there were changes in the amount of money / limit of administrative expenditure that can be allocated to foreign contributions to 20 percent from the previous 50 percent and, Enforcement Directorate had issued a show-cause notice to Amnesty International India recently (I think in 2019).

So while yeah, online discussions mostly conclude to simplest possible explanation i.e. authoritarian / totalitarian / nationalism / and what not - This notice comes just days after FCRA was changed in India, that might be the pushing point / breakpoint towards closure rather than "Government Witchhunt", because Amnesty has been getting the show-causes notices for some time now.

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