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Split Keyboard for Professionals

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Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I wish it had a longer interconnecting wire. One issue with normal keyboards is that it forces your shoulders to round forwards. I currently use two normal keyboards side by side, which allows me to type with my chest open.

That is interesting. Can you post a pic of how your keyboards are placed?

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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1. An ortho keyboard, e.g. crkbd fixes this. This made me finally touch-type after 20 years of using keyboards. 2. Yes :) 3. You do have great choice between splitting and tenting and wrist rests. 4. The keyboard in question has trackpoint, trackball, and trackpad accessories. Bottom line is that once you enter the realm of unconventional keyboards, you will want a very custom one. You are right in that. This one is…

A comment above mentions that the benefits of an ortho board are not worth the learning curve of typing on one. Would you mind addressing the benefits you've found as somebody who is endorsing them?

See my reply to it above. I feel this is highly individually dependent and you have to try it yourself.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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Most are horrible. One of the reasons is overlap. Your hands do occasionally hit keys on the other side. You want a pair of 2/3 keyboards, rather than 1/2 keyboards. You /especially/ want a lot of the "special" keys on both sides. Another is key action. You want proper mechanical keys. A third is mounting. That's a problem which hasn't really been figured out. The middle hinge or fixed setup is definitely sub-ideal.…

I was told by one friend that they made it really hard to use a normal keyboard effectively after a few years. Did you find that?

after half year on kinesis I started to touchtype on "normal" keyboards. Now, few years in, still no problems.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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Most are horrible. One of the reasons is overlap. Your hands do occasionally hit keys on the other side. You want a pair of 2/3 keyboards, rather than 1/2 keyboards. You /especially/ want a lot of the "special" keys on both sides. Another is key action. You want proper mechanical keys. A third is mounting. That's a problem which hasn't really been figured out. The middle hinge or fixed setup is definitely sub-ideal.…

I was told by one friend that they made it really hard to use a normal keyboard effectively after a few years. Did you find that?

My desktop has a split keyboard and I switch between that and the laptop's normal one pretty effortlessly. Even all the shortcuts just come.

However, after not using my Das keyboard for a few weeks, I found that I couldn't type with it at all any more. I realized later that that's because the distance between the keys is smaller, so after I realized that and compensated, it became easier to type there. I never use it, though, so I haven't put in any effort.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I am on the fence about this one, care to push me over? (I already have the Ez)

I just learned about this last night, and was really considering it. One thing that I wasn't sure about is the size-- I already love the ergodox I've been using for the last 6 years, and reddit says the moonlander is much smaller feeling.

Funny, that makes it more attractive to me. I liked my coworker's ergodoz but it was such a monster I didn't want it on my desk.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I was told by one friend that they made it really hard to use a normal keyboard effectively after a few years. Did you find that?

I almost always use a split keyboard when I'm able to set up a stationary environment. But I love to go mobile: coffee shops, beaches, couch, bar counters. I never forget how to use a normal keyboard, nor do I lose any speed. That might be the trick, maybe you need to switch between the two occasionally.

I have this crazy plan to create a harness where the two keyboard halves hang on the sides of your body (think sitting or standing with your arms naturally hanging down - the keyboards will be positioned under your palms).

But I'm still not sure if it would be too cyborg-y enough to use in public...

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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Most are horrible. One of the reasons is overlap. Your hands do occasionally hit keys on the other side. You want a pair of 2/3 keyboards, rather than 1/2 keyboards. You /especially/ want a lot of the "special" keys on both sides. Another is key action. You want proper mechanical keys. A third is mounting. That's a problem which hasn't really been figured out. The middle hinge or fixed setup is definitely sub-ideal.…

I have an Ergodox EZ that I've used for about 4 months now, and it definitely took some time getting used to. I dropped from about 90 wpm to below 40 in the first few days, but now I'm back up to over 80, with fewer mistakes on average - I guess I'm slower at correcting them, so I try to type more accurately. Previously I was used to typing some of the letters on the edges with the "wrong" hand (e.g. typing Y with my…

Right now I do not care about my wpm, it's at least as fast as I can think.

What I do care about is the ergonomics and the customizability, where the Ergodox Ez excels. I don't ever need to stretch out far or in any weird way anymore. Heck, most of the time I don't need to stretch out for my mouse anymore.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

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I started out using Microsoft Natural keyboards in the 90s. Ergonomic pain using straight keyboards at work brought me back to them in the 2010s. The Sculpt (wireless) is really wonderful. Favorite keyboard ever for me. (<-- that sentence, and this one, typed on a Sculpt. Thank you, unknown engineers.)

I do love the sculpt but they tend to die within a couple of years. I went through two of them before switching to something more durable. The build quality is just bad - many times my computer was behaving weirdly, traced to one of the function keys being stuck down (this also manifested as the keyboard eating new batteries within a couple of days).

This is my exact thought. I love it, but I'm about to retire my second one. It's almost worth just paying the price for a new one every couple of years though. I have two of the older Microsoft Natural keyboards from decades ago that I periodically switch to and they will probably last another 20 years.

Re: Split Keyboard for Professionals

#60
post #36

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1. An ortho keyboard, e.g. crkbd fixes this. This made me finally touch-type after 20 years of using keyboards. 2. Yes :) 3. You do have great choice between splitting and tenting and wrist rests. 4. The keyboard in question has trackpoint, trackball, and trackpad accessories. Bottom line is that once you enter the realm of unconventional keyboards, you will want a very custom one. You are right in that. This one is…

A comment above mentions that the benefits of an ortho board are not worth the learning curve of typing on one. Would you mind addressing the benefits you've found as somebody who is endorsing them?

The curve is indeed steep! I had to force myself to only use the ortho keeb for a week or two (resist using the laptop keyboard). Since then I'm sailing ortho only, so much that I sold some very expensive staggered keyboard, because I know I will not use staggered anymore if I can.

The benefits were obvious immediately, even while not touch-typing yet. Every key is assigned to a finger without ambiguity. Except for some shortcut combinations, but even then it feels clear.

You use your pinky more which I think is good (I also play the guitar).

The number one advantage is that my hand is never lost anymore. With staggered, every other word or command makes my hand "float" somewhere away from the "home row/keys", with a subsequent mistype or look-down. This does not happen anymore.

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