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Re: On Browser Tabs

#51
I don't have a big problem with browser tabs, but I have 60 tabs open in Notepad++ and I feel like I'm losing my goddamn mind.

Re: On Browser Tabs

#52
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I... have a problem. I recently had ~1600 tabs open in Firefox. With a lot of painstaking effort I cut it down to ~750. Quite some distance to go still. The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. I wish there were easy REPL-ish programmatic access to the list/dict of tabs (so I could filter out all GitHub tabs, or close all stackoverflow tabs, etc) and that was a first class citizen in the browser i…

> The default interface sucks once you have more than 50 tabs. You know that you can bookmark and re-visit pages right?

This is surprisingly hard on some sites (try bookmarking your progress through a twitter thread, or your progress in an endless scroll site)

Re: On Browser Tabs

#53
Tabbed browsing: a lousy band-aid over poor browser document and state management (2014):

...What I want is to maintain a list of current references, preferably with some spatial context (tree-mode browsing is great for this) to what the relationship is between pages in my browser session. I do not need is for every last single page to be open at the same time, sucking down memory, CPU cycles, and worse: playing videos and/or making noise.

That state-management is missing. Bookmarks aren't really it -- they're a permanent quick-reference to stuff you want to go back to, and as with any storage locker or closet, suffer from the clean-out problem: it's a goddamned pain in the ass to go and sort through the stuff you've tossed in there and clean out the junk.

Browser history isn't it either: it's too comprehensive, is insufficiently contextualized, doesn't record relationships between pages (other than, maybe, relative time). On mobile devices it's a chore to sort out where in your history a given page was in the highly constrained display available. Site-supplied titles are often absolutely worthless for finding content (though some such as HN do this well).

There's a space between the comprehensive listing of everything you've visited, and the highly organized catalog, that's missing in the browser space. Effectively: the current workspace, with the papers and books with which you're currently working open in front of you. I've been playing with this stuff for decades and it's still a frustration....

https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/256lxu/tabbed_...

My present Firefox tab count is > 1550.

Re: On Browser Tabs

#54
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found myself using separate windows more during my time with a heavily customized Manjaro install, where I used a tiling window manager and had lots of ways of quickly adjusting my window layout with minimal extra information needed. I think managing windows in say... Windows is terrible (even if macOS manages to be even worse). There are a few third-party applications to sort of emulate tiling WMs, but they're ver…

> I think managing windows in say... Windows is terrible Have you tried Microsoft's FancyZones? I find it works well enough to be worth installing on all my windows computers. https://github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/wiki/FancyZones-Overv...

Yes, though I prefer http://windowgrid.net/ since I always keep relayouting windows around, at least when I tried, FZ had me going out of my way to change layouts a little bit.

Re: On Browser Tabs

#55

Tabbed browsing: a lousy band-aid over poor browser document and state management (2014): ...What I want is to maintain a list of current references, preferably with some spatial context (tree-mode browsing is great for this) to what the relationship is between pages in my browser session. I do not need is for every last single page to be open at the same time, sucking down memory, CPU cycles, and worse: playing vide…

want to try amna?? It helps you break things down by task. I’d say it’s still super early, but seems like the right balance of random browsing and collecting items as part of a context.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23780781&ref=producthun...

Re: On Browser Tabs

#56
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I always close my tabs as quickly as possible. "Tabs Zero" so to speak. I would value a better reopen closed tab feature. Going further back and allowing me specify which closed tab I want back.

Isn't this just browser history? I close tabs very aggressively (usually hovering around Tabs Zero if you exclude the always open (like calendar and messaging apps) and regularly fish things out of my history.

Re: On Browser Tabs

#57

Tabbed browsing: a lousy band-aid over poor browser document and state management (2014): ...What I want is to maintain a list of current references, preferably with some spatial context (tree-mode browsing is great for this) to what the relationship is between pages in my browser session. I do not need is for every last single page to be open at the same time, sucking down memory, CPU cycles, and worse: playing vide…

want to try amna?? It helps you break things down by task. I’d say it’s still super early, but seems like the right balance of random browsing and collecting items as part of a context. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23780781&ref=producthun...

Interesting. Is there a demo / walkthrough?

OK, found & am reading https://getamna.com/blog/post/customer-research/

My preference would be CLI / terminal centric.

https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/6bgowu/what_if...

Re: On Browser Tabs

#58
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I keep my tabs under control and always set FF to start with a fresh session so I loose all tabs every day. Works for me. The new FF for android though forces a new tab to get to my favorite websites and does not allow for a clean session after close, so I now have 47 open, mostly the same 4 websites :s

Currently there is a "clear private data on quit" which you can use. Just uncheck everything but tabs. You have to manually select "Quit" from the menu to trigger it.

Beta versions have the option to close tabs after a set inactivity time which I can't wait to land.

Re: On Browser Tabs

#59
Tabs were a mistake. They were a hack to work around window managers that lacked enough features and now we have a "window manager" inside of a window manager. Probably most apps have their own tab interface which works differently from every other app. We should rethink the design, improve the window managers, then remove tabs.

I don't think it will ever happen, but it would be nice.

Re: On Browser Tabs

#60

Tabbed browsing: a lousy band-aid over poor browser document and state management (2014): ...What I want is to maintain a list of current references, preferably with some spatial context (tree-mode browsing is great for this) to what the relationship is between pages in my browser session. I do not need is for every last single page to be open at the same time, sucking down memory, CPU cycles, and worse: playing vide…

I've found that Sidebery[0] helps significantly with this, with both tree-style tabs and multiple organization panes.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/

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