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Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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> For those keeping score, not only does Amazon own the The Washington Post and oversees the CIA’s Commercial Cloud Enterprise, it now has on its powerful board of directors the most visible figure from the NSA who illegally spied on Americans for the better part of a decade. This sounds tinfoil hat crazy, but here we are. Not so crazy now. Man in a position to have reams of compromising intel on the current presiden…

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Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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That is an assertion with no evidence. Either is possible.

While either is possible, your response reminds me of Russell's teapot because it's just as possible that Bezos eats dirt. Without being able to falsify the claim, and by deferring to a claim that isn't the simplest possible explanation (he's got nothing), it makes me wonder whether other HN commentators will come to defend my "Bezos is a dirtmonger" conspiracy theory as well.

So, Mr. Bezos, have you stopped eating dirt?

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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Whoever is running Amazon's PR is either really good and has determined this won't matter, or is really really incompetent. Based on how the PR for HQ2 in NYC went, I'm suspecting the latter.

Will it matter? The sheep (myself included) will still shop on Amazon.

eBay, OfferUp, Craigslist, and local stores have all offered great experiences since I stopped giving Amazon money. I haven’t had the feeling of “going without” - to the contrary, I’ve picked up a bunch of materials for our family recently and we are staying relatively sane even with a 2nd-grader in the house. I find myself waiting slightly longer for some items, but in many cases also able to get significant discounts by shopping used. Convenience is the same; I even still pick up ecommerce purchases from our apartment complex’s Amazon Hub locker (haha).

Amazon is far from essential; they can be beaten handily on price, quality, and sustainability by hand-picked suppliers, and frankly in many cases I prefer the experience of buying things from humans. I went to a local hardware store the other day (I live in Los Angeles) and when shopping I asked about some pallets outside and was invited to take them, saving me easily $40 in lumber and making me feel more valued as a customer than Amazon “guaranteed [except not really and with no consequences for failure] 2-day shipping” has ever made me feel.

For people who value the feeling of connection to their community and their supply chains, Amazon doesn’t make sense. For those who would prefer to disconnect from the environment and humans that supply them with what they need and want, Amazon is competitive but not unbeatable.

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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You did? With 11% of the company? > Amazon's chief executive officer (CEO) and founder, Jeff Bezos, is the company's biggest shareholder, with 55.5 million shares representing 11.1% of outstanding shares.

Which would make him the majority shareholder. By a margin of 5% - almost double the next largest shareholder and more than the next dozen shareholders combined. In other words: he has unilateral control of the company. Welcome to publicly traded companies. You don't need 51% to control the company.

He's a de facto controlling shareholder due to how comfortably secure his plurality is, absolutely. And he's got a significant amount of de jure control by being Amazon's President, CEO, and Chairman of its Board of Directors. It's under his control in many real senses.

But he's not a majority shareholder, since his percentage of ownership does not exceed 50%.

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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> For those keeping score, not only does Amazon own the The Washington Post and oversees the CIA’s Commercial Cloud Enterprise, it now has on its powerful board of directors the most visible figure from the NSA who illegally spied on Americans for the better part of a decade. This sounds tinfoil hat crazy, but here we are. Not so crazy now. Man in a position to have reams of compromising intel on the current presiden…

This: This sounds tinfoil hat crazy, but here we are. Not so crazy now At some point we need to just say it some of the largest tech companies are basically NSA+CIA partners and we're well on our way to having Big Tech completely integrated into NSA and CIA and DoD

The government has used Big Tech forever. Oracle, Microsoft, Apple products have been used by NSA+CIA for about as long as those companies have had products. Yes, those companies sell to the government. They want to make money and the government has money.

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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Evidence is plain as a day to see: no "reams" of any kind have surfaced in 4+ years in spite of the entirety of the deep state working overtime to unearth them. While absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, the latest switch from mere misinterpretations and quoting out of context to brazen whole cloth made up hit jobs that dozens of people deny _on the record_ suggests that the DNC is out of ammo.

He just hired the DOJ to defend him in a lawsuit in which he is accused of rape. That seems like something.

Joe Biden is also "accused" of rape. Doesn't mean shit.

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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The implication here requires a few things to be true. 1. The CIA illegally collected intelligence on Donald Trump prior to his election to the Presidency 2. This intelligence was specifically of a compromising nature to President Trump 3. This intelligence was retained and can be retrieved at a moments notice 4. The retired DCI, who is no longer a government employee, somehow retains his read ins, Need to Know or ac…

Plus we've already had an impeachment trial. If there were damning, conclusive evidence that the CIA possessed on Trump, that would have been the time to present it.

Collecting on a US person without a warrant likely would have been illegal and not viable evidence.

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You did? With 11% of the company? > Amazon's chief executive officer (CEO) and founder, Jeff Bezos, is the company's biggest shareholder, with 55.5 million shares representing 11.1% of outstanding shares.

Which would make him the majority shareholder. By a margin of 5% - almost double the next largest shareholder and more than the next dozen shareholders combined. In other words: he has unilateral control of the company. Welcome to publicly traded companies. You don't need 51% to control the company.

>he has unilateral control of the company

Bu that reasoning, if 1000 people each own 0.1% of a company, and one buys another out, then the person with 0.2% has "unilateral control of the company", implying that the other 99.8% could not stop the desires or action of the 0.2%.

This is nonsense. Any 3 of the 999 could stop the 1.

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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> For those keeping score, not only does Amazon own the The Washington Post and oversees the CIA’s Commercial Cloud Enterprise, it now has on its powerful board of directors the most visible figure from the NSA who illegally spied on Americans for the better part of a decade. This sounds tinfoil hat crazy, but here we are. Not so crazy now. Man in a position to have reams of compromising intel on the current presiden…

Hey, want to hear something else a little tinfoil hat crazy and also 100% true?

- Checking out on Amazon was always encrypted.

- Browsing on Amazon was not encrypted until quite recently. Add To Cart wasn't encrypted.

- High end network equipment includes support for monitoring your browsing on the guest wifi to send URLs from you browsing Amazon to price-compare or buy. See, for instance, Cisco Analytics for Retail.

Re: Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s board of directors

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post #8

> For those keeping score, not only does Amazon own the The Washington Post and oversees the CIA’s Commercial Cloud Enterprise, it now has on its powerful board of directors the most visible figure from the NSA who illegally spied on Americans for the better part of a decade. This sounds tinfoil hat crazy, but here we are. Not so crazy now. Man in a position to have reams of compromising intel on the current presiden…

This: This sounds tinfoil hat crazy, but here we are. Not so crazy now At some point we need to just say it some of the largest tech companies are basically NSA+CIA partners and we're well on our way to having Big Tech completely integrated into NSA and CIA and DoD

"The sinister Huawei has close ties with the Chinese government. Our companies can't compete on a level playing field!"
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