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Foreboding Skies over the SF Bay Area

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Re: Foreboding Skies over the SF Bay Area

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Post by hodgesrm »

eweise wrote: post #28
maerF0x0 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ideologues are able to turn any event into evidence for their perspective. I'm not a climate change denier, I just agree with you that the real issue is humankind's fire suppression. There are a bunch of things that could be done, but no one is happy to support it. Selective logging, brush clearing, not putting multi-million dollar homes in the forest. etc.

was the same in California 20 years ago. Didn't have fires like this. What's changed?

More fuel and warmer/drier. Snowpack for example has moved up 1000' or more since the 1990s in the middle Sierra Nevada, which means less moisture in the summer.

Re: Foreboding Skies over the SF Bay Area

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Post by kmtrowbr »

thursday0987 wrote: post #29

i don't have any sympathy for california at all. bad policies over decades has led to this result.

The rest of the U.S., munching on almonds and avocados, doesn't see the interconnectedness of it all. There's only one earth. California isn't on Mars. There's not really anyone who isn't affected, or anyplace to go to escape.

Re: Foreboding Skies over the SF Bay Area

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Post by dang »

thursday0987 wrote: post #29

i don't have any sympathy for california at all. bad policies over decades has led to this result.

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News? You've been doing it repeatedly. Maybe you don't owe California better, but you owe this community better if you're posting to it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Foreboding Skies over the SF Bay Area

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Post by athms »

cryptonector wrote: post #39
fasteddie31003 wrote: post #21

Basically nullifying every air pollution effort for years. Reducing CA wildfire should be environmentalist number 1 priority.

Sacramento and Newsome won't be doing anything at all to reduce wildfires, just like Brown before him. No controlled burns. No dead tree removal. No fire breaks. Nothing.

Stop talking about a subject matter you know nothing about.

Re: Foreboding Skies over the SF Bay Area

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Post by 0max »

mikestew wrote: post #8
enahs-sf wrote: post #3

Strong blade runner vibes going on today. It's so odd to see people going about their day as if normal when there is nothing normal about today. Was outside near Lake Merritt and there are people jogging and having coffee. Pure dystopia.

Redmond, WA didn't have orange skies (hazy and smokey, but not orange), but with air quality in the "unhealthy whether you're 'sensitive' or not" range and a thin layer of ash on the car, I decided to skip the morning run yesterday. According to TFA, it didn't smell smokey in SF, so perhaps that's why folks were out?

Based on NOAA satellites, the smoke and fires seem to end in Oregon, but I don't doubt that this may extend up to BC in no time. https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/sector_band.php?sat=G1...

Re: Foreboding Skies over the SF Bay Area

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Post by mikestew »

0max wrote: post #56
mikestew wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Redmond, WA didn't have orange skies (hazy and smokey, but not orange), but with air quality in the "unhealthy whether you're 'sensitive' or not" range and a thin layer of ash on the car, I decided to skip the morning run yesterday. According to TFA, it didn't smell smokey in SF, so perhaps that's why folks were out?

Based on NOAA satellites, the smoke and fires seem to end in Oregon, but I don't doubt that this may extend up to BC in no time. https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/sector_band.php?sat=G1...

Based on NOAA satellites, the smoke and fires seem to end in Oregon

No, your view window ends in Oregon. I don't know how one is supposed to determine anything about what's going on in Washington state from that link. Here's a more useful link for the doubtful:

https://www.airnow.gov/?city=Redmond&state=WA&country=USA

Re: Foreboding Skies over the SF Bay Area

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Post by el_benhameen »

saagarjha wrote: post #38
el_benhameen wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My phone camera can't really even capture the effect. The color correction algorithm doesn't think the sky can be this color.

I've been capturing pictures through the window that are half indoors, half outdoors. This makes the color correction algorithm stop trying to get rid of the orange.

Yeah, I managed to finally get a good one by including some artificial white lights in the frame.

Re: Foreboding Skies over the SF Bay Area

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Post by megameter »

el_benhameen wrote: post #6
mertd wrote: post #4

The photos in the article are not enhanced for dramatic effect. This is really how it looks like in person. Hopefully this will finally hit some people hard and we'll reverse the decades of urban sprawl and environmental mismanagement. In all likelihood, it will be forgotten as soon as the blue sky returns.

My phone camera can't really even capture the effect. The color correction algorithm doesn't think the sky can be this color.

The thing that struck me about it in person is just how dark it is right now. It is just past noon and it looks like evening.

Re: Foreboding Skies over the SF Bay Area

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Post by t0mbstone »

trhway wrote: post #18

Sun is blocked, and thus the temperature on Peninsula which was predicted to be in 90ies (naturally given no NW wind) yesterday and today is 65F currently at the noon. Basically a nuclear winter preview - the amount of wood burned in the last month near Bay Area (say 20 ton x 800K acres) is like several large nukes. Daily - 20 ton x 10K+ acres - is like a smaller one.

It was like 80 degrees in Phoenix, AZ today... in the middle of summer. That's basically unheard of.

I guess you could say that even giant smoke clouds sometimes have silver linings...

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