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Re: Show HN: Free hosted open-source alternative to Zapier/Airflow

#51
Honestly I really like this, I can't wait to use it, but my concerns are around certain features being behind a paywall, especially HA and Clustering on the self-hosted version.

I understand that the cloud hosted version should cost more for these features but without a way to get pricing for the self-hosted HA and clustered version it will be a tough sell for me to deploy it, use it and have to scrap it in the future.

Re: Show HN: Free hosted open-source alternative to Zapier/Airflow

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It's license (fair code) sucks.

That is a fair criticism, I am aware of the AGPL license shortcomings. I just picked up the more restrictive license at the beginning - being a sole funder and not working on this full time etc. I simply did not want somebody (e.g. a big company with a big team) grabbing my code along the way and running away with it. Since now Titanoboa got to the shape I envisioned it to be in I am starting to focus more on adoptio…

You misunderstood, it's not you who's being criticized.

n8n used to write "open source" on their webpage while publishing the product with a proprietary license. A lot of discussions ensued.

https://github.com/n8n-io/n8n/issues/40

Re: Show HN: Free hosted open-source alternative to Zapier/Airflow

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's license (fair code) sucks.

That is a fair criticism, I am aware of the AGPL license shortcomings. I just picked up the more restrictive license at the beginning - being a sole funder and not working on this full time etc. I simply did not want somebody (e.g. a big company with a big team) grabbing my code along the way and running away with it. Since now Titanoboa got to the shape I envisioned it to be in I am starting to focus more on adoptio…

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Re: Show HN: Free hosted open-source alternative to Zapier/Airflow

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post #23

Being a JVM friendly tool, it would be great to unlock other JVM syntaxes to allow scripting in any lanugage.. Jython for Python, Quercus for PHP, JRuby for Ruby, etc.

yes, I am considering this and it should not be that hard (also Kotlin, Nashorn javascript...), but at this stage Titanoboa is just a one-man-show - so patience, I might get there ;)

newcrobuzon you're a genius my friend someone should give you an award I loved your idea and how you approached it it's fantastic for developers. I'm a root Java dev and I have to say you did fantastic work to make developers life easier, you didn't take any approach you made your own this is awesome. If you get Javascript working I feel like I'm getting back into AppJet days! This is fantastic stuff. If you show me how I can help get the javascript stuff going I would be glad to help you in this initative since I have adopted NodeJS recently like you said, being a one man army you have to be efficient and JS makes me more efficient.

Re: Show HN: Free hosted open-source alternative to Zapier/Airflow

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Ti-ta-no-bo-a 5 syllables. Agreed that this is unwieldy to say in normal speech.

I mostly considered naming to be a distraction from getting the real work done. I also am probably not good with names as my other alternative was Megalodon (4 syllables) - I just wanted to have some megafauna name. Happy to hear what you folks would suggest :)

A fauna focused synonym for canopy?

Re: Show HN: Free hosted open-source alternative to Zapier/Airflow

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"However, their marketing tries to sell themselves as no-code platform for business folks." Huh? I've never seen Airflow described as no code or tried to sell itself that way, in fact all the pipelines are written in python and you can do some really complex orchestration. I get you're not saying Airflow is no code but that the category you've put it in is typically low code or marketed as low code, but then I don't…

I would agree. The no-code is an illusion in the enterprise realm - before you know it, you are waist deep in the custom code. No-code can really work only for small businesses imo. I come from enterprise background and that is one of the reasons I built Titanoboa - to make something that makes it easy to rapidly prototype new integrations on the fly. I summed up some of my thoughts on this topic here: https://www.ti…

This is not true in many use cases. There are tons of ways to handle low code/no code. It is a very hard problem to solve, and vendors end up building basic "low-code" wrappers around API endpoints, and that's why it looks like a lost cause.

Done right, (we are a living proof it can be done, at Syncari), one can do a lot of stuff done without any coding

Re: Show HN: Free hosted open-source alternative to Zapier/Airflow

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I would agree. The no-code is an illusion in the enterprise realm - before you know it, you are waist deep in the custom code. No-code can really work only for small businesses imo. I come from enterprise background and that is one of the reasons I built Titanoboa - to make something that makes it easy to rapidly prototype new integrations on the fly. I summed up some of my thoughts on this topic here: https://www.ti…

This is not true in many use cases. There are tons of ways to handle low code/no code. It is a very hard problem to solve, and vendors end up building basic "low-code" wrappers around API endpoints, and that's why it looks like a lost cause. Done right, (we are a living proof it can be done, at Syncari), one can do a lot of stuff done without any coding

Do you have any links to some blog posts discussing it (the "doing it right" approach)? I would agree that it definitely depends on the use case.

I will definitely check out Syncari - just opened the landing page and it looks great!

Re: Show HN: Free hosted open-source alternative to Zapier/Airflow

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is a fair criticism, I am aware of the AGPL license shortcomings. I just picked up the more restrictive license at the beginning - being a sole funder and not working on this full time etc. I simply did not want somebody (e.g. a big company with a big team) grabbing my code along the way and running away with it. Since now Titanoboa got to the shape I envisioned it to be in I am starting to focus more on adoptio…

You misunderstood, it's not you who's being criticized. n8n used to write "open source" on their webpage while publishing the product with a proprietary license. A lot of discussions ensued. https://github.com/n8n-io/n8n/issues/40

Oh really? Wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the link!

Re: Show HN: Free hosted open-source alternative to Zapier/Airflow

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Nice work! How does it compare to n8n? [0] n8n is the closest OSS alternative to Zapier I've seen so far. [0] https://n8n.io/

It's license (fair code) sucks.

Why exactly? I myself have been researching the options that exist to write open source software but at the same time prevent industrial leeches from benefiting from it (aka. avoiding Amazon playing an Elasticsearch move EDIT - or was it Mongo?).

So far I've stumbled upon using dual AGPL + commercial for those who don't like the copyleft; using something like Mongo's SSPL; MariaDB's BSL; and now, Commons Clause.

On the surface (I didn't yet study carefully the intricacies of all options) all these look to me as a great way to publish code and contribute to the whole of our common knowledge, while at the same time being able to maybe make a living from it, something for which it's important to prevent some bad actors from bundling it and profiting from it on your behalf. Otherwise that code wouldn't really exist at all to start with...

I might write an Ask HN becaude this topic is complex.

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