Dickheads (2015)

Post by 082349872349872 » Sat, Sep 05, 2020, 9:40 PM UTC

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #50

torben-friis wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Well, hardly ever. At "The Oasis" (an infamous fictional dive), men's gimme caps slowly slide backwards on their heads until everyone knows the evening has sufficiently advanced to sing songs. At black tie affairs the growing prevalence of rakishly worn unknotted bow ties provides exactly the same signal. I'm sorry, but I don't really understand anything at all in that paragraph. That's not a criticism of your way…

a dive is a place of low repute where hard liquor is available, I don't know what a gimme cap is - some sort of cap I suppose - and as the men at this dive get progressively more drunk they sort of lose control of their caps which slide backwards, of course they are not using it to signal they are ready to sing, it is amusing, observing these people with their caps all back you might think they had given the signal t…

Exactly. Sorry, here are the references:

The Oasis & black-tie affair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0_der_5hRM

Gimme ("give me") cap: https://merriam-webster.com/assets/mw/images/gallery/gal-wap... they're given away free (like facebook) because they advertise

black tie (here, a "smoking"): https://i1.wp.com/www.menstylefashion.com/wp-content/uploads...

what, never?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBK39BKWuQg

Post by bryanrasmussen » Sun, Sep 06, 2020, 5:14 AM UTC

cafard wrote: post #43

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #24

I think this kind of Freudian viewpoint about the purpose of all sorts of things began to fall out of fashion at the turn of the century (with the dying off of committed Freudians from the last century), and it sounds sort of ludicrous now - much like if someone started spouting off theories based on phrenology. It reminds me of some book I was reading in the 80s that started off in the intro with the theory that roc…

I think that you are correct, but that the big fall-off happened between 1980 and 1990.

I agree that there was a big fall-off about that time, basically I attribute it to - Freud died in 1939, all the big writers that were into his ideas as the perfect key to "character" were no longer as important in the 80s, and so as often happen with intellectual ideas that do not have any proof behind them they began to get sort of tarnished.

I choose 2000 however as the point where the ideas become sort of ludicrous, there were still plenty of people who had been brought up believing these ideas were facts in the 80s alive and in positions of power, by 2000 they have begun to retire and die off and in various ways not exert any great intellectual power. In 1980 if your boy child wet the bed you might still end up having someone tell you seriously it's because he is entering in the phallic phase of personality development, in 2000 maybe one of your crazy old relatives at Thanksgiving will try that.

Some of Freud's ideas still seem to hold sway however, for example the general point of the Oedipus Complex idea which I think has stayed a bit more because of having made a firmer place for itself in literary criticism.

Of course the problem with theories that explain the world is they never really die out, hence flat-earthers and hence this article.

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