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Why are there so few black tech entrepreneurs?

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Re: Why are there so few black tech entrepreneurs?

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Like mentioned in the article, only 13% of Americans are black[0]. Secondly, nearly 30% of that 13% are living in poverty[1]. So really you only have ~8% of Americans who are both black and not in poverty. From there it gets whittled down further for cultural reasons. You could similarly ask "where are there so few white rappers?" or "why are there so few male nurses?" and find cultural reasons and pressures involved…

> Secondly, nearly 30% of that 13% are living in poverty This is literally all the evidence one needs to see the problem here. Their poverty is the result of decades of discrimination. > "why are there so few white rappers" False assumption. White people have pretty good representation in the rap game now, unlike black people in board rooms.

This is literally all the evidence one needs to see the problem here. Their poverty is the result of decades of discrimination.

Not necessarily. For example the Joseph Rowntree Foundation defines poverty as bottom-third. By their method the proportion of those “living in poverty” is fixed, regardless of overall standards of living. To be poor in America is still to be much better off than most of the world.

Re: Why are there so few black tech entrepreneurs?

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Isn't there just an infinite series of questions that you can ask? How come there are so few paraplegic entrepreneurs? How come there are so few Eskimo entrepreneurs? I don't think that equality of opportunity will necessarily lead to homogeneity and equal representation in every single field of commerce. People are all wired differently with different inclinations/desires/ambitions/goals/skills.

Re: Why are there so few black tech entrepreneurs?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is a difference of language. It’s clear that Blacks are less likely to succeed in the US than Whites. One can phrase that as “Blacks are disadvantaged” or “Whites are advantaged”. Both are true statements, but one leads to positive actions and the other to negative. As a society, our goal should not be to eliminate the advantages of one group above another. We should be trying to provide more advantages…

We can't provide "advantages" to everyone. We can provide opportunities (maybe that's what you mean) by investing in education from an early age, including services related to education like nurseries and extended hours. Then, people take the opportunity, or their don't. Race should not be relevant. My problem with current climate is that it perpetuates race as something to notice and to treat specifically when we sh…

The current climate perpetuates race as something to notice? I'm sorry but was the previous climate different?

Re: Why are there so few black tech entrepreneurs?

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post #52

Isn't there just an infinite series of questions that you can ask? How come there are so few paraplegic entrepreneurs? How come there are so few Eskimo entrepreneurs? I don't think that equality of opportunity will necessarily lead to homogeneity and equal representation in every single field of commerce. People are all wired differently with different inclinations/desires/ambitions/goals/skills.

Unless races are all wired differently, I think it's safe to assume that there should probably be equal representation in every single field. Is that your argument?

Re: Why are there so few black tech entrepreneurs?

#55
post #11

Gee, why aren't a predominantly economically unfortunate demographic majorly present in an area requiring capital or higher education?

*economically sabotaged

I don't know why you're being down voted. Blacks were purposefully if not explicitly excluded from many economic programs for decades, from the Homestead Act to the GI Bill. Several of their towns and communities we're destroyed, like Greenwood Tulsa. That sounds like sabotage.

Re: Why are there so few black tech entrepreneurs?

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the only way to solve that problem is the address the root causes: stable families, educational opportunities, easier access to decent wages, and lower housing costs. That first one seems much more difficult than the others. How do you go from pervasive single-parent households to consistent two parent households? You can't simply throw money at the problem and expect the next generation to bootstrap itself into st…

Truancy: the action of staying away from school without good reason; absenteeism. (Had to google it! Thanks for a new word) Truancy can be dealt with by providing food to the kid at the end of the school day, food meant to be brought home. There are of course arguments against this, e.g., school are not meant for this. Well, schools are not meant to operate with absent students and whatever can fix should be consider…

Perform a trick to get a food reward?

It sounds like training dolphins.

I don't even know if that is a good sign or a bad sign, but... wow.

Re: Why are there so few black tech entrepreneurs?

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For whatever reasons, it seems to me that relatively few black people study for engineering and science degrees. At least that's my feeling in Europe. Then it's simply a trickle down effect, like for women in tech: Few choose this path so even fewer end up being tech entrepreneurs or at Google/Facebook, etc (since the article mentions the workforce of these companies). So, once again, education from primary/secondary…

There are many, many non-technical founders. Most jobs at Google and Facebook are not in engineering. A lack of blacks in computer science might explain why the engineering department has only two black employees but how do we explain the sales team?

Re: Why are there so few black tech entrepreneurs?

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post #52

Isn't there just an infinite series of questions that you can ask? How come there are so few paraplegic entrepreneurs? How come there are so few Eskimo entrepreneurs? I don't think that equality of opportunity will necessarily lead to homogeneity and equal representation in every single field of commerce. People are all wired differently with different inclinations/desires/ambitions/goals/skills.

Unless races are all wired differently, I think it's safe to assume that there should probably be equal representation in every single field. Is that your argument?

>Unless races are all wired differently, I think it's safe to assume that there should probably be equal representation in every single field. Is that your argument?

Maybe I used the term wired a bit loosely, we're all the same DNA to be sure, but we are shaped by our environment, biology, wealth, upbringing, culture and so many other factors. I don't think how given a multitude of factors you can achieve equal representation unless you also have equal representation along the other axes. (Edit: Also, humans are not robots. There is still the element of free-will here. It may well be that Eskimos have no interest in entrepreneurship. :))

Re: Why are there so few black tech entrepreneurs?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Secondly, nearly 30% of that 13% are living in poverty This is literally all the evidence one needs to see the problem here. Their poverty is the result of decades of discrimination. > "why are there so few white rappers" False assumption. White people have pretty good representation in the rap game now, unlike black people in board rooms.

This is literally all the evidence one needs to see the problem here. Their poverty is the result of decades of discrimination. Not necessarily. For example the Joseph Rowntree Foundation defines poverty as bottom-third. By their method the proportion of those “living in poverty” is fixed, regardless of overall standards of living. To be poor in America is still to be much better off than most of the world.

Why should I care that poor American are better off than poor Venezuelans when discussing poverty?

Re: Why are there so few black tech entrepreneurs?

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Gee, why aren't a predominantly economically unfortunate demographic majorly present in an area requiring capital or higher education?

By tech i assume we mean IT, which requires very little capital to start a business or learn about.

And student loans have no accessability requirements in the US.

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