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Cisco To Shut Down Flip Video Business; Will Give Pink Slips To 550 Employees

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Re: Cisco To Shut Down Flip Video Business; Will Give Pink Slips To 550 Employees

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I wonder if the executives who spent $590 million on Pure Digital will also get a pink slip?

I know someone who was involved in that deal, and I remember hearing that the Flip folks were very happy to sell because they knew iPhone was about to add video support.

Re: Cisco To Shut Down Flip Video Business; Will Give Pink Slips To 550 Employees

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I've never heard of GoPro before, if skiing and racing cars are your markets I don't think it's competing with Flip. I think Flip actually lost the fight against PRO-ish (high-end) photo cameras, now they're cheaper, smaller and shot video just perfect, I have seen many youtubers using those instead of Flip (what I believe was their market, home videos).

Check it out (Gopro): http://www.amazon.com/GoPro-HD-HERO-960-Camera/dp/B003YMN3O6... Compare it to this (the flip): http://www.amazon.com/Flip-UltraHD-Video-Camera-Generation/d... The gopro is a really great little camera, and it's actually pretty cheap. People mount these to RC aircraft, or to the side of their motorcycle, or the front of their surfboard, or, anything... The fact that you've never heard of it isn't…

They just seem to have entirely different purposes. GoPro looks really good for doing POV work. But, flip seems to be better for standing and filming something. I am a swing dancer and people seem to always use a Flip (or a cell phone) when recording themselves or others.

So GoPro may be the better camera but that doesn't mean it is appropriate for every situation just as the Flip is not appropriate for every situation.

Re: Cisco To Shut Down Flip Video Business; Will Give Pink Slips To 550 Employees

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As the article says: "In a world where consumers can now record and stream video directly from their iPhone, Android or BlackBerry phone, Flip’s video camera business is no longer novel or useful."

I would much rather record video with a Flip camera than my Android phone. The Flip is instantly ready to record when I turn it on, and it boots in at most 3 seconds. There is very little delay between stopping and starting, so I don't miss what's going on if I pause/restart to create a new file. My Epic takes several seconds just to load the camera app, several seconds more plus a stupid "MMS vs. normal" question to…

How does the iPhone's camera app compare? I've got a Droid, and I concur with your "this camera app sucks" assessment, but I hear that others are better.

In fact, my crappy flip phone's camera app booted up much faster, so it really might just be the Android camera app being not so good. Hopefully that will get some love in the future, because I typically don't bother with mine.

Re: Cisco To Shut Down Flip Video Business; Will Give Pink Slips To 550 Employees

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I really think the GoPro killed them. If I want good quality video, I need something better than a Flip. If I need a durable, small, device for getting some OK video, I'll get a goPro. If I need OK video quality and don't care about durability, I'll use my smart phone. When I'm out skiing, I see half the teenagers with GoPro's mounted on their helmets, their ski poles, chest harnesses etc video taping each other hitt…

I'm a Cisco employee and own a GoPro but not a Flip. :-P

That said, the two devices are really aimed at different niches. The GoPro is pretty useless for point-and-shoot. It has no preview screen, and the viewfinder is pretty crummy. You basically point it in the right general direction, and hope for the best.

OTOH, the Flip is too expensive and fragile (and possibly too big) for the use cases you describe. Amazon has tons of complaints about the Flip's waterproof case being less than waterproof.

Re: Cisco To Shut Down Flip Video Business; Will Give Pink Slips To 550 Employees

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I wonder if the executives who spent $590 million on Pure Digital will also get a pink slip?

Pure Digital CEO Jonathan Kaplan left cisco over two months ago.

I meant the people from Cisco responsible for the deal.

Re: Cisco To Shut Down Flip Video Business; Will Give Pink Slips To 550 Employees

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Pure Digital CEO Jonathan Kaplan left cisco over two months ago.

I meant the people from Cisco responsible for the deal.

knowing the old cisco that's very doubtful, but maybe this new "we have to do a whole lot very fast or we're screwed" cisco will handle it as one would expect.

Re: Cisco To Shut Down Flip Video Business; Will Give Pink Slips To 550 Employees

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well the logic was the following (I'm assuming): video requires tons of bandwidth, more video out there means more bandwidth requirements. Where are cisco's cash cows? in routers/exchange devices.

Arguably all that video would have been created anyway.

well maybe, maybe not. the idea was to be at every point in the bandwidth creation/consumption stream.
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