I'm on MacOS and have `Show school bars: Always` set, but I still wish the scroll bars were slightly wider.
They're undoing much of what Ive did to MacOS, it's time to include making scroll bars as big and useful as they used to be!
Scrollbar Blindness
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#52> I kindly ask you to dedicate a little more attention to how the websites you create behave on platforms other than your own. Agreed. > Alternatively, you can set the scrollbars to be visible at all times by setting System Preferences -> General -> Show scroll bars to Always. Disagree. Now you're using a different UI layout than the vast majority of your users!
Are your majority of users really using a macbook? Maybe if you're a hip SaaS startup.
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#53Guilty as charged
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#54> I kindly ask you to dedicate a little more attention to how the websites you create behave on platforms other than your own. Agreed. > Alternatively, you can set the scrollbars to be visible at all times by setting System Preferences -> General -> Show scroll bars to Always. Disagree. Now you're using a different UI layout than the vast majority of your users!
Are your majority of users really using a macbook? Maybe if you're a hip SaaS startup.
I mean that a Mac with scrollbars enabled is still a different layout than Windows or Linux with scrollbars enabled. They all have different appearances, widths, etc.
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#55I loathe the fact that scrollbars are now hidden. I'm constantly looking for it to either a) find out how big the page is b) scroll more precisely I don't even understand why they would remove them? Who ever complained of a scroll bar?
Infinite scroll pages have also contributed to their demise...
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder if the designers of the systems , after becoming so bored with the status quo, begin to fetishize the sleek hidden thing that is scroll bar right now ... like when coders are writing algorithms for say, 10-15 years I bet their code gets a lot more compact and sleek looking , almost akin to tight 3 character variable leet code solutions etc.. maybe this is just the same phenomenon tearing its head in the desi…
> coders are writing algorithms for say, 10-15 years I bet their code gets a lot more compact and sleek looking , almost akin to tight 3 character variable leet code solutions etc.. What are you talking about? I've been programming a long time, and clean, readable code with clear, descriptive variable names gives me a stiffy. It suggests a more meticulous mind than mine wrote it. You know who writes the worst Gordian…
Actually, the worst are mathematicians. Go find some quant code.
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#57Another one of such thing: please try to scroll on your site using a mouse wheel from time to time, even if you're normally using a touchpad (from your laptop or an external one)! Lot of fancy homepage with scroll animations are awful on anything that isn't scrolling as smoothly as a MacBookPro touchpad. Example: https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/ is horrible to use on anything that isn't a mobile device or a Mac.
Your example works just fine on my ThinkPad P50. Unless I am missing something.
I guess it depends on your scrolling device and browser? Using my mouse wheel the animation feels as if it was jumping 20 frames every time I go up or down, which makes it really frustrating to read text content or even see what the animation is trying to demonstrate.
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#58On smaller screens I’m kinda ok with scroll bars appearing only when scrolled, but what’s with no scroll bars at all on some websites? That irks me like nothing else. I can’t even figure out how long the page is and whether I can finish reading it quickly or need to save it for a later time. What do the designers gain from such user hostile designs? And how are people paying for such designs without any oversight or reviews?!
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#59Another one of such thing: please try to scroll on your site using a mouse wheel from time to time, even if you're normally using a touchpad (from your laptop or an external one)! Lot of fancy homepage with scroll animations are awful on anything that isn't scrolling as smoothly as a MacBookPro touchpad. Example: https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/ is horrible to use on anything that isn't a mobile device or a Mac.
This highlights the bigger issue of web developers and designers only working on the latest and greatest hardware with the fastest performance and the best user experience. Their users may not have access to the same hardware, while developers and designers are totally blind to how their software might perform on anything but a recent model MacBook Pro or XPS.
In this case I'd say it highlights another problem too: web developers thinking it is their prerogative to control how their users scroll.
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#60I loathe the fact that scrollbars are now hidden. I'm constantly looking for it to either a) find out how big the page is b) scroll more precisely I don't even understand why they would remove them? Who ever complained of a scroll bar?
They can be partially or completely re-enabled in the settings on MacOS.
Now I'm really confused, when does MacOS decide to hide scrollbars? Only when you're using a touchpad?