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Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh is stepping down after 21 years

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Re: Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh is stepping down after 21 years

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I've always heard mixed feelings about Tony. I wonder if there are any HNers who have a perspective they'd like to share.

I am leery of any company that comes off with culty-vibes and that was the impression I got from various media I read and watched about it. I’m sure it’s great for business but not for me, I am free thinker. Same reason I think Ray Dalio / Bridgewater is an insane asylum. I briefly worked with someone who did a stint there and he embraced the principles / radical transparency thing and it made him extremely hard (eve…

Plus one on bridgewater

Re: Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh is stepping down after 21 years

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One of my favorite (and definitely my Mom’s favorite) parts of Zappos is the hand written note that they send with each pair of shoes. My mom is an avid walker and she loves comfortable shoes so most birthdays and Christmas’s I send her a pair from Zappos. The hand written note is such a nice touch for such a big business (especially from a parent company like Amazon- the anti-personalizer) that it makes the gift of…

Its amazing, this is so far away from what. If I got a hand crafted note I'd assume it was written under duress and not something I'd want to be party to.

Re: Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh is stepping down after 21 years

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One of my favorite (and definitely my Mom’s favorite) parts of Zappos is the hand written note that they send with each pair of shoes. My mom is an avid walker and she loves comfortable shoes so most birthdays and Christmas’s I send her a pair from Zappos. The hand written note is such a nice touch for such a big business (especially from a parent company like Amazon- the anti-personalizer) that it makes the gift of…

I've ordered many pairs of shoes from Zappos over the past decade and have never once received a hand-written note, or anything except just the shoebox inside of their white shipping box.

I'm very curious why you get them when I don't...? :P

Re: Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh is stepping down after 21 years

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Have you driven the blocks around downtown Vegas lately? It's very seedy, full of pawn shops and payday lending stores, liquor stores and closed stores. Streets are dirty, numerous homeless people. I admire his goal of revitalizing it, but it didn't work.

It's too bad, because I really wish Vegas could somehow magically turn into a tech jobs hub. It's got a lot going for it: No state income tax. Cheap housing. Minimal regulation. Cheap, relatively private LLCs. World class restaurants. World class entertainment/shows (even if touristy). Casinos, if you're into it. If NorCal is a heaven for people who like outdoor activities, then Vegas is the heaven for people who lik…

TBH, I find Vegas restaurants mostly underwhelming. If you're on an extremely generous expense account of course there are lots of celebrity chefs. But I've found otherwise, even off-strip, generally pretty mass produced food.

Re: Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh is stepping down after 21 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am leery of any company that comes off with culty-vibes and that was the impression I got from various media I read and watched about it. I’m sure it’s great for business but not for me, I am free thinker. Same reason I think Ray Dalio / Bridgewater is an insane asylum. I briefly worked with someone who did a stint there and he embraced the principles / radical transparency thing and it made him extremely hard (eve…

the radical transparency thing is very interesting When you embrace it, you will definitely piss off a LOT of people society is all about 'being polite' and 'wearing a mask' if you stop being polite and stop wearing masks, while still maintaining common courtesy life becomes MUCH easier I'll give you an example 2 of your friends have problems which prevent them from having a good relationship you have a frank talk wi…

Yeah, that's not how it is used though. It is an alternate system of control with its own set of rules. It is creepy and dishonest to its core even if it works at the top, it certainly does not carry all the way down.

Re: Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh is stepping down after 21 years

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A few years back, I went to their office tour in Vegas, and I've read Hsieh's book, which doesn't cover much of the post-Amazon years. It seemed pretty clear to me that Zappos was in decline as an independent entity. Fulfillment was already gone. They were in the middle of removing their product photography team. A section of their office was being used as a community co-working space. There were fun quirky office ar…

Some people can pretend to believe anything for a paycheck.

Re: Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh is stepping down after 21 years

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It's too bad, because I really wish Vegas could somehow magically turn into a tech jobs hub. It's got a lot going for it: No state income tax. Cheap housing. Minimal regulation. Cheap, relatively private LLCs. World class restaurants. World class entertainment/shows (even if touristy). Casinos, if you're into it. If NorCal is a heaven for people who like outdoor activities, then Vegas is the heaven for people who lik…

I probably wouldn't mind Vegas except for one extremely important thing. The whole place reeks of cigarettes and I can't stand it. I don't ever want to live in a place where indoor smoking is legal.

Oh man that sounds great, I've always been disappointed that I missed out on the era when smoking in the office was okay.

Re: Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh is stepping down after 21 years

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One of my favorite (and definitely my Mom’s favorite) parts of Zappos is the hand written note that they send with each pair of shoes. My mom is an avid walker and she loves comfortable shoes so most birthdays and Christmas’s I send her a pair from Zappos. The hand written note is such a nice touch for such a big business (especially from a parent company like Amazon- the anti-personalizer) that it makes the gift of…

I've ordered many pairs of shoes from Zappos over the past decade and have never once received a hand-written note, or anything except just the shoebox inside of their white shipping box. I'm very curious why you get them when I don't...? :P

Did you order by phone?
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