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How Purism avoids Intel’s Active Management Technology

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Re: How Purism avoids Intel’s Active Management Technology

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Purism just needs TrackPoint and thicker keyboards, and I can upgrade my stockpile of ThinkPads. :) https://www.neilvandyke.org/coreboot/

The trackpoint is the single reason I never bought a Thinkpad.

It's an acquired taste, but luckily also very easy to ignore in my experience.

Re: How Purism avoids Intel’s Active Management Technology

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welp. Their response to Raptor in that thread just forever cost System76 my business. System76 takes the position that compatibility with x86 binaries is worth having to take closed, remote-access-enabled, binary firmware. That's a position someone can take. Responding "So what?" and "I was expecting this" is just nasty and unprofessional.

Yeah, that was strange. Sounds like there is some argument history behind it.

It does read like that, but even so, the initial question from Raptor Computing Sys was very well worded and not disrespectful at all. The inability to at a minimum leave it as "We've covered this before, and disagree on some items. We'll have to agree to disagree and leave it at that." or even "I'm doing what I can, we'll see where it ends up in the end" or "See the official account for official statements" is the troubling part. Then a gain, that doesn't appear to be uncommon on Twitter, where everyone seems to have trouble disambiguating their professional and personal lives, and those of the people they are responding to (which is related).

Re: How Purism avoids Intel’s Active Management Technology

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You have dig past the marketing labels and into the actual specs. Some CPUs have VT-x but not vPro https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/149091/...

where "some" means pretty much all consumer CPUs.

That's absolutely not true, there are a ton of modern consumer CPUs with vpro. Here's a comparison of the 10500 through the 10900{,k}, all of which have vpro. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?pro...

Here's the more complete list of Core processors which have vpro platform eligibility. It's quite long. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/search/featurefi...

Re: How Purism avoids Intel’s Active Management Technology

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The part that can't be removed still has had critical security vulnerabilities, though.

But how would anyone interact with that part? If it has no NIC access and the OS doesn't have access to it because it's not hanging on PCIe anymore, so if it's only there for system bringup, it's essentially sealed off from the world.

It might require physical access, as with https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/security-center/advi... but that's still pretty bad as it allows for rootkits completely undetectable from the OS environment.

Re: How Purism avoids Intel’s Active Management Technology

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Purism just needs TrackPoint and thicker keyboards, and I can upgrade my stockpile of ThinkPads. :) https://www.neilvandyke.org/coreboot/

The trackpoint is the single reason I never bought a Thinkpad.

It's certainly one of those "acquired tastes", though like with 3.5mm elimination, I don't understand the sheer vitriol against it by those who happen not to use it. Why do you care? If everything else in Thinkpad appealed to you, why would an eminently ignorable feature be such a HUGE ("single reason") deal breaker?

In my mind, either a) There are other reasons and this is a convenient conscious or subconscious scapegoat; or b) it's an extremely emotional decision, and as such certainly relevant to holder ("Whatever floats your boat!":) but not necessarily applicable or translatable to anybody else.

I'd be curious (genuinely!) to hear more - were you actually tempted by any Thinkpads in the past but rejected them due to trackpoint, and if so can you elaborate why - what use case did they prevent or what inconvenience did they cause? Thx muchly! :)

Re: How Purism avoids Intel’s Active Management Technology

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The trackpoint is the single reason I never bought a Thinkpad.

It's certainly one of those "acquired tastes", though like with 3.5mm elimination, I don't understand the sheer vitriol against it by those who happen not to use it. Why do you care? If everything else in Thinkpad appealed to you, why would an eminently ignorable feature be such a HUGE ("single reason") deal breaker? In my mind, either a) There are other reasons and this is a convenient conscious or subconscious scap…

The trackpoint is ugly. It's a giant throwback pimple in the middle of the keyboard, which there's no way to get around looking at all the time. Thinkpads being ugly is kind of their thing, so it doesn't surprise me that lots of Thinkpad people don't mind it or even see it as a plus, but to me seeing a trackpoint is like seeing a floppy drive. I used one for years, and I'm really happy that trackpads have gotten good enough that I'll never need to use one again.

Edit: display notches are actually probably a better comparison. They're ugly and even though I don't use it I can't get rid of it except by using hardware designed not to have it.

Re: How Purism avoids Intel’s Active Management Technology

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Supposedly it's already in the works: https://twitter.com/jeremy_soller/status/1286457590289858560

Welp. Their response to Raptor in that thread just forever cost System76 my business. System76 takes the position that compatibility with x86 binaries is worth having to take closed, remote-access-enabled, binary firmware. That's a position someone can take. Responding "So what?" and "I was expecting this" is just nasty and unprofessional.

That's not System76 account. It's a personal account of one person who has a history of being harassed by Raptor. Raptors tweets were from their official account, and your reaction was the exact goal of their antagonism.

Re: How Purism avoids Intel’s Active Management Technology

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Still no 16x10 screens. Welcome to the failbin.

A bit harsh, but sure, once you go 16:10 it's very hard to go back to 16:9 laptops.

I've been able to make the adjustment by buying something with a slightly larger display. A 13" 16:10 display is comparable to 14" 16:9. At 1080p/1200p you lose some vertical pixels and a very tiny amount of physical vertical length, but you gain horizontal pixels and length, along with potentially more ports.

This was my recent experience choosing between a new XPS 13 or a T14s amd. Side by side the screens weren't that different. Port selection, keyboard quality, and trackpoint availability were the tiebreakers in favor of the Thinkpad. (Didn't care much about the performance difference due to my light use case.)

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