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The New ‘Gold Rush in Space’

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Re: The New ‘Gold Rush in Space’

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There's a Romanian space company trying to make first stage boosters out of super heating water.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKHI5VXisEc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O50kL6am6U8

Once in space, does it not make more sense to split water into hydrogen and oxygen using solar energy and use that as fuel?

Perhaps, but the intended purpose of these is to actually help get the payload to space.

Re: The New ‘Gold Rush in Space’

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I have the privilege of being the space startup founder. If you have any specific questions - I am happy to answer them. P.S. Going offline now, but send questions anyway - I'll to reply them later.

Is there something drastically new besides the change in the economics? From layperson's perspective, SpaceX so far has done nothing new that hasn't been done 50 years ago. Yes, robotic rockets landing on robotic ships is cool but that's not core space tech that changes everything IMHO. It's nice that there's a new way to go to ISS but Soyuz was doing it since ever and very reliably. There was a buzz about how the ne…

> From layperson's perspective, SpaceX so far has done nothing new that hasn't been done 50 years ago.

https://bucket2.glanacion.com/anexos/fotos/85/2912485.gif

In the last 50 years we did not have anything like this. Rocket re-utilization, now only for first stage but also second stage in the future is a game changer in the economics of launching a rocket.

Re: The New ‘Gold Rush in Space’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a Romanian space company trying to make first stage boosters out of super heating water.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKHI5VXisEc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O50kL6am6U8

Once in space, does it not make more sense to split water into hydrogen and oxygen using solar energy and use that as fuel?

At that point it would be far more efficient to just skip the electrolysis, fill your spacecraft with xenon, and use the solar power for ion propulsion. No need for an oxidant when you have sufficient electrical power, so a large portion of the water's mass would be dead weight.

Re: The New ‘Gold Rush in Space’

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Is there something drastically new besides the change in the economics? From layperson's perspective, SpaceX so far has done nothing new that hasn't been done 50 years ago. Yes, robotic rockets landing on robotic ships is cool but that's not core space tech that changes everything IMHO. It's nice that there's a new way to go to ISS but Soyuz was doing it since ever and very reliably. There was a buzz about how the ne…

> From layperson's perspective, SpaceX so far has done nothing new that hasn't been done 50 years ago. https://bucket2.glanacion.com/anexos/fotos/85/2912485.gif In the last 50 years we did not have anything like this. Rocket re-utilization, now only for first stage but also second stage in the future is a game changer in the economics of launching a rocket.

Yes it’s cool and being cheaper is a nice thing but what does it enable that wasn’t possible before?

Re: The New ‘Gold Rush in Space’

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This article is mostly fluff. It doesn't get into any interesting technical details. The core bits are: > Mr. Kokorich, 44, is one such entrepreneur. In 2017 he founded Momentus, a California-based company that seeks to revolutionize transport in space by developing in-space transfer vehicles that use water as a propellant. These would “complement low-cost gigantic rockets, like Starship from SpaceX and New Glenn fro…

There's a Romanian space company trying to make first stage boosters out of super heating water.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKHI5VXisEc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O50kL6am6U8

Scott Manley has a video with a more realistic view on this company [1].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT9HBkWGg7s

Re: The New ‘Gold Rush in Space’

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I have the privilege of being the space startup founder. If you have any specific questions - I am happy to answer them. P.S. Going offline now, but send questions anyway - I'll to reply them later.

How much would it cost to put something like microNOVA into orbit around Mars?

Re: The New ‘Gold Rush in Space’

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Using nuclear options to transform ordinary metals to gold should be less pricier than running a gold mining operation on an asteroid flying by, I think. Do we have anyone as an expert on any of those options?

Not an expert but here is an article on turning lead into gold. Spoiler it's radioactive. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-l...

Cost is more of a spoiler than radioactivity. At "one quadrillion dollars per ounce" you might as well do isotope separation and only collect stable gold 197. The additional cost of the separation would probably be just a rounding error in the whole thing.

Re: The New ‘Gold Rush in Space’

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> From layperson's perspective, SpaceX so far has done nothing new that hasn't been done 50 years ago. https://bucket2.glanacion.com/anexos/fotos/85/2912485.gif In the last 50 years we did not have anything like this. Rocket re-utilization, now only for first stage but also second stage in the future is a game changer in the economics of launching a rocket.

Yes it’s cool and being cheaper is a nice thing but what does it enable that wasn’t possible before?

Cost is the usually the main factor determining whether something is possible.

Re: The New ‘Gold Rush in Space’

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Yes it’s cool and being cheaper is a nice thing but what does it enable that wasn’t possible before?

Cost is the usually the main factor determining whether something is possible.

What is this thing that wasn’t possible before but possible now thanks to the discount?

I know the talking points but what about the specifics?

Re: The New ‘Gold Rush in Space’

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There's a Romanian space company trying to make first stage boosters out of super heating water.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKHI5VXisEc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O50kL6am6U8

Once in space, does it not make more sense to split water into hydrogen and oxygen using solar energy and use that as fuel?

You would generate the fuel extremely slowly so would have to wait ages between brief burns for thrust. But why settle for the Isp of a hydrolox engine, when you can have the efficiency of an ion it hall thruster?
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