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Business software is so good now, that it’s competing with consumer software

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Re: Business software is so good now, that it’s competing with consumer software

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Trello was designed as the opposite of prevailing business tools at that time and part of that was that consumer use cases (e.g. college projects) were mentioned often in earlier examples, so it's hard to claim it as an example of a business tool migrating to consumer use. Its taken a more business first approach since the atlassian acquisition for sure, but that wasn't always the exclusive focus.

It wasn't always the exclusive focus, but I think it was always the primary focus. After all, it came out of Fog Creek Software (now Glitch); given their product history, Trello would stand out as the only consumer-focused product they'd ever released, had they actually released it as one. As I recall the original marketing (imperfectly, I'm sure, as it's been quite a while ago now), the pitch was focused around the…

I agree, I'm not saying it's a 50/50 split. But I think consumers were at least considered in the design process for Trello, which is the not the case for Zoom.

Re: Business software is so good now, that it’s competing with consumer software

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I just installed Oracle DB to help my mum with managing her recipes. It's really improved her TTT (Time to table).

No child was ever disowned for choosing Oracle!

Telling my children now that they would become the first, if they did this. In our house we use PostgreSQL.

Re: Business software is so good now, that it’s competing with consumer software

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How does he go from "Zoom is great" to "Business software is so good now, that it's competing with consumer software"? His only supporting example is Zoom. Then he goes on to generalize the shit out of it which is not really that convincing. Zoom succeeded in consumer space because of COVID, period. Good for them, but I don't like people who spin stories. Even before covid I've known about Zoom for a while as some ne…

> His only supporting example is Zoom. As another well-known example, the hottest new teen sexting app is currently Google Docs.

wow i had no idea, where can i learn more?

Re: Business software is so good now, that it’s competing with consumer software

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> His only supporting example is Zoom. As another well-known example, the hottest new teen sexting app is currently Google Docs.

wow i had no idea, where can i learn more?

https://boingboing.net/2019/03/14/youll-never-guess-what-app...

Re: Business software is so good now, that it’s competing with consumer software

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How does he go from "Zoom is great" to "Business software is so good now, that it's competing with consumer software"? His only supporting example is Zoom. Then he goes on to generalize the shit out of it which is not really that convincing. Zoom succeeded in consumer space because of COVID, period. Good for them, but I don't like people who spin stories. Even before covid I've known about Zoom for a while as some ne…

Microsoft Office use to be $600 and only businesses paid for it. Everyone else either pirated it or use a consumer “Works” product. At $99/year for 6 users, it works across all of your devices and gives each user 1TB of storage. Many consumers use it and pay for it now.

The Adobe Photoshop bundle gained more mainstream buyers when they went subscription.

As far as Zoom, I agree. To a close approximation, every adult has FB in the US so Messenger has been the go to app for friends and family. Besides your contacts are already there.

Re: Business software is so good now, that it’s competing with consumer software

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Who ever mentions Zoom under such a headline and then cannot think of anything better must have a pretty limIted experience with software and must have been living under a rock lately. Don't remember Zoombombing? What about the fact, that Zoom planned to limit encryption to only business customers?

Agreed–also personally I find the UX of Zoom to be really awful. Having helped a bunch of new-to-Zoom people get set up with it in the past few months it almost feels like they never did any user testing at all.

Re: Business software is so good now, that it’s competing with consumer software

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post #50

While I admit, the OP/author didn't choose the best examples and could have researched more. And also, there are still plenty of crappy business apps out there. (To the troll comments, neither Oracle nor SAP are modern by any account. Oracle predates the internet). I will also say that the OP is right about this trend. If I had to pick between two equals, with equivalent SLAs/privacy/other business considerations, I'…

> Notion is another great example. It's a business tool diguised in consumer clothings

I would say it's the opposite. Notion is a consumer app that's so customizable that it's started to compete with business tools.

By your logic, Microsoft Word is a "business software" in this context. Also you could say the same about iPhone, that it's a "business tool disguised as a consumer device". They are not. It's the other way around. All these companies target consumer market, but because they have designed them well and are powerful, they can be used in business use cases.

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