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U.S. government issues travel warning for New Zealand due to '23 active cases'

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Re: U.S. government issues travel warning for New Zealand due to '23 active cases'

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They don’t let Americans in anyway.

We're letting in film crews, so this could be seen as a brain drain of Hollywood. James Cameron moved his family here from LA before Covid so that's more to do with Weta Digital and lifestyle etc.

Re: U.S. government issues travel warning for New Zealand due to '23 active cases'

#52

The NZ border is, for all intents and purposes, completely closed. They're largely only letting in NZ citizens (a bit of nuance there, but that's more or less the case). Those 23 cases are in managed isolation or quarantine, and New Zealand is otherwise back to normal. I'm trying to get to my partner in NZ. She's having meals in restaurants with friends, working a non-essential retail job, going to pub usergroup meet…

100 days without community transmission today (Sunday) so there's talk of loosening restrictions for "essential skilled migrants". Hope your application goes well.

[1] https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/122380097/tick-tic...

Re: U.S. government issues travel warning for New Zealand due to '23 active cases'

#53
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This Russia-Trump conspiracy theory is one of the left's intellectual failures. You might as well believe Obama is a Muslim spy or the Illuminati controls the world or whatever. You've just been worked up into a frenzy by the media and don't realize it.

I wouldn't equate Trump-Russia collusion with birtherism and other anti-Obama smears, for many reasons. Here are five. * Russia systematically influenced internet forums, Twitter, etc, to help Trump in the 2016 election. This influence campaign is documented in the Mueller report, and several individuals and companies have been indicted. American intelligence says that Russia currently continues this activity. * Muel…

It isn't just Trump, it's an entire subset of the GOP who are actively pushing Kremlin propaganda, just to hold onto power. Senators, including Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin), in the middle of an egregiously poor pandemic response, accepting and spreading Russian propaganda, wants to yet again start up investigations of Biden and his son, in September. It's soooo important he has to wait until September, to release this urgently important report. Well timed, however, to try and influence an election. He clearly think his own constituents are gullible morons, or else he'd be more worried about getting punished at the polls. But in fact, he thinks this will work.

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2...

Re: U.S. government issues travel warning for New Zealand due to '23 active cases'

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NZ media has a negative opinion of the current US administration and tends to write everything about them in a negative way.

That’s not just the NZ media, and it’s not just NZ. More or less every country other than the US looks at America as a train wreck now. It’s an embarrassment

> More or less every country other than the US looks at America as a train wreck now.

A substantial portion of the US views the US as a train wreck too, maybe even a majority.

Re: U.S. government issues travel warning for New Zealand due to '23 active cases'

#55

This looks like a standard Department of State advisory message. A fairly moderate one to “exercise caution”. The purpose of these advisories is to make sure travelers are aware of any situation. The article on France, for example, has messages about Covid-19, terrorism, and civil unrest, along with advice. Don’t read too much into it.

>Don’t read too much into it.

Except that it wrecks the credibility of the advisory message.

NZ borders are currently closed [1].

And even if you could somehow get in it's one of the safest places to be given their strong response.

US issuing a travel advisory is a joke...on multiple fronts.

[1] https://www.immigration.govt.nz/about-us/covid-19/border-clo...

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Trump has been attacking US states, US federal agencies, US allies, and many subsets of American citizens since he took office. By most accounts he is not working in the interest of the US. Who is he working for? That's an open question.

This Russia-Trump conspiracy theory is one of the left's intellectual failures. You might as well believe Obama is a Muslim spy or the Illuminati controls the world or whatever. You've just been worked up into a frenzy by the media and don't realize it.

> You've just been worked up into a frenzy by the media and don't realize it

Really? Please enlighten me. Which information have I consumed that supports your claim?

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#57
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One of the trump administration’s goals is to isolate America and weaken its stature among its allies. Whether or not this particular action is a result of that is unclear.

> One of the trump administration’s goals is to isolate America and weaken its stature among its allies Why?

Because he views the world transactionally and as a zero sum game, “America first” has to come at the expense of other nations. It doesn’t hurt that his benefactor feels threatened by NATO and was expelled from the G7

Re: U.S. government issues travel warning for New Zealand due to '23 active cases'

#58
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This Russia-Trump conspiracy theory is one of the left's intellectual failures. You might as well believe Obama is a Muslim spy or the Illuminati controls the world or whatever. You've just been worked up into a frenzy by the media and don't realize it.

I wouldn't equate Trump-Russia collusion with birtherism and other anti-Obama smears, for many reasons. Here are five. * Russia systematically influenced internet forums, Twitter, etc, to help Trump in the 2016 election. This influence campaign is documented in the Mueller report, and several individuals and companies have been indicted. American intelligence says that Russia currently continues this activity. * Muel…

You realize all that is the same level of evidence that conspiracy theorists use, right? It's like saying 9/11 was a false flag operation because the US did one before in Cuba and would benefit from an excuse to invade Iraq and the CIA had warned the president in advance and there's some classified information that the public isn't allowed to know. There's a reason this stuff isn't accepted in court and shouldn't be accepted by people trying to understand things.
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