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Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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HN has given N O D E love for the design aesthetic of the presentation and video format recently, but it feels like I'm being fed the details via Morse code. It's infuriating! There is no summary, no overview, no block diagram, just a wall of transcribed prose and gamble on a non-indexed, un-subtitled 8 minute video. I imagine many people (myself included!) will just go "Okay, there a black brick and screen thing wit…

I understand in some respects, but for me I just read the headline and go "Oh, that's interesting!" and then read it or watch the video. If I do not like the headline then I do not read the article.

I do agree that subtitles should be included though, basic accessibility in my eyes.

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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post #41

HN has given N O D E love for the design aesthetic of the presentation and video format recently, but it feels like I'm being fed the details via Morse code. It's infuriating! There is no summary, no overview, no block diagram, just a wall of transcribed prose and gamble on a non-indexed, un-subtitled 8 minute video. I imagine many people (myself included!) will just go "Okay, there a black brick and screen thing wit…

The OpenBSD web page is 126kB (less after gzip). Once the image resources are cached, it's only a measly 4kB for the HTML and 4kB for the CSS. I'd say that more than makes up for the page being ugly.

Looking like it was made by software engineers who don't care about--and perhaps even distain--emphasis on visual design is part of the brand!

I mean if you gave a front-end whippersnapper a 126kB budget clearly something with some design harmony could be made that wouldn't, as I say, scare people off. It sets the tone and in a rather quaint way says "This might not be what you are looking for." I like it.

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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post #47

HN has given N O D E love for the design aesthetic of the presentation and video format recently, but it feels like I'm being fed the details via Morse code. It's infuriating! There is no summary, no overview, no block diagram, just a wall of transcribed prose and gamble on a non-indexed, un-subtitled 8 minute video. I imagine many people (myself included!) will just go "Okay, there a black brick and screen thing wit…

I don't find the OpenBSD page ugly at all. I find it efficient (and I'm currently not an OpenBSD user or developer). If you would like to see ugly pages, there's probably a Geocities mirror up somewhere which one can browse through for an ample amount of examples. A more accurate, descriptive word is, I believe, pre Web 2.0 (or Web 1.0?).

The LibreSSL pages, which are clearly familial, for a long time included "This page scientifically designed to annoy web hipsters". That the design speaks to you says they've got the tone just about right. :-)

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

#55

HN has given N O D E love for the design aesthetic of the presentation and video format recently, but it feels like I'm being fed the details via Morse code. It's infuriating! There is no summary, no overview, no block diagram, just a wall of transcribed prose and gamble on a non-indexed, un-subtitled 8 minute video. I imagine many people (myself included!) will just go "Okay, there a black brick and screen thing wit…

The first two paragraphs seem to summarize the project fairly well. The text itself also appears to be fairly well organized.

I haven't watched the video itself (I'm browsing this between compiles and integration test runs), but I certainly can't find any fault with the textual side of things.

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

#57

Now this, this is a project we can all get behind. Adding radio with kill-switch and getting PostmarketOS working on this will essentially make this a smartphone replacement to reclaim mobile computing from the duopoly. Also, N-O-D-E publishes all the requisite files; Essentially making this a 'Build your own smartphone' project and those who don't want to get their hands dirty could order one from the website when a…

Absolutely nothing will make it a smartphone replacement unless it has good battery life. Smartphones are batteries with computers attached.

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

#58

Now this, this is a project we can all get behind. Adding radio with kill-switch and getting PostmarketOS working on this will essentially make this a smartphone replacement to reclaim mobile computing from the duopoly. Also, N-O-D-E publishes all the requisite files; Essentially making this a 'Build your own smartphone' project and those who don't want to get their hands dirty could order one from the website when a…

This will be a niche product and for that I’m sceptical it’s sustainable on the long run. There’s no way this would even make a dent to Apple’s or Google’s marketshare. Sure, it’s a nice device for tech-people, but general consumers will most likely not use this.

Not everything needs to be a product.

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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HN has given N O D E love for the design aesthetic of the presentation and video format recently, but it feels like I'm being fed the details via Morse code. It's infuriating! There is no summary, no overview, no block diagram, just a wall of transcribed prose and gamble on a non-indexed, un-subtitled 8 minute video. I imagine many people (myself included!) will just go "Okay, there a black brick and screen thing wit…

I think the major difference is that with OpenBSD it's quite clear what it is, an OS so secure that it sacrifices comfort. That's not an option for most people using a Client and probably neither on the Server because those are usually deployed at work places where standardization is usually more important than sophistication. But I agree, it's not clear what NODE is for, although I get the impression it's a remake of 90s credit card sized "PDAs" (not sure if they ever had a real name).

Re: Trying to build the ultimate Raspberry Pi computer – Zero Terminal V3

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HN has given N O D E love for the design aesthetic of the presentation and video format recently, but it feels like I'm being fed the details via Morse code. It's infuriating! There is no summary, no overview, no block diagram, just a wall of transcribed prose and gamble on a non-indexed, un-subtitled 8 minute video. I imagine many people (myself included!) will just go "Okay, there a black brick and screen thing wit…

> purposefully ugly

I've been using OpenBSD for about 20 years so I feel like I can talk about this issue.

If you browse web.archive.org for old copies of the www.openbsd.org site, you'll notice that the current design is from many years ago, back when lots of websites looked like that.

It appears that the current design is from around the year 2000:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010118233800/http://www.openbs...

And that one of the oldest archived versions of the page, from 1997, already had much of the same information and organization, just with less color:

https://web.archive.org/web/19970327004719/http://www.openbs...

Over the years there have been attempts by users to redesign the site. Each had their own problems. I think that for a site redesign to be accepted, it would need to be a major improvement both technically and aesthetically, and for maintenance of the new site to be real easy. OpenBSD devs don't want a bunch of churny work hoisted on them.

Just as an aside, I've noticed in this thread that you're making low-effort, kind of rude posts about an important project that's not even related to the actual subject, which is Raspberry Pi. Why are you doing that?

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