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IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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VMware has been one of the few companies to be bought by an old dinosaur of tech (Dell) and so far, managed to survive. It helps that they're much closer to equal with Dell than RedHat and IBM, but I'm pretty sure RedHat knew exactly what they were doing when they decided to let IBM in the door.

I have heard one rumor (only one, mind you) that Dell/VMWare was more of a reverse merger. If you end up in charge of strategy for the combined company, then of course things go better for you.

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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So, we don't think the linux community and companies are much different from century-old business-process company with 1/3 million employees? Is this really a question, or just pedantry?

Yeah, but 'Silicon Valley' isn't the term to use for that. I don't know why you think it would be? Silicon Valley is also huge old companies built with massive defence contracts. If you think Silicon Valley is mostly small startups you're mistaken.

I use management focused vs technology focused when talking about this distinction. For me it boils down to is the organization more concerned about choices in regards to process/organizational structures or technology.

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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not just IBM, but the link to the microsoft layoffs is kind of mind blowing: http://techrights.org/2020/08/02/microsoft-layoffs-secrecy/ >“Microsoft rarely, if ever, allows anyone working there to reach 55 and have their pension become vested.” >“Microsoft was twice as likely to lay you off if you were over 40.” >“Cortana is an analytics and telemetry app that data mines people while pretending to be a digital assist…

>"Microsoft rarely, if ever, allows anyone working there to reach 55 and have their pension become vested."

Don't pensions usually vest within 5/10 years of working for a company (possibly in tiers) rather than when reaching age 55? I'd assume anyone who has been at MS long enough to be eligible for a pension (which was probably last offered in the 90s or earlier) would have vested decades ago. You simply can't draw upon your pension until you reach 55 but you lose nothing. Makes me question the whole article to be honest.

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, we don't think the linux community and companies are much different from century-old business-process company with 1/3 million employees? Is this really a question, or just pedantry?

Yeah, but 'Silicon Valley' isn't the term to use for that. I don't know why you think it would be? Silicon Valley is also huge old companies built with massive defence contracts. If you think Silicon Valley is mostly small startups you're mistaken.

That's technically true, but it doesn't do anything to advance the discussion of the issues the article raises. In particular, I really doubt that anyone who read the article was mislead by its use of the technically incorrect term "Silicon Valley."

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, we don't think the linux community and companies are much different from century-old business-process company with 1/3 million employees? Is this really a question, or just pedantry?

Yeah, but 'Silicon Valley' isn't the term to use for that. I don't know why you think it would be? Silicon Valley is also huge old companies built with massive defence contracts. If you think Silicon Valley is mostly small startups you're mistaken.

I think that the most people reading that comment understand that this that is shorthand for "startupy tech company".

When people refer to silicon valley, it is partially a reference to a place, but also partial a reference to simply culture.

Most people understand this, and quibbling over the exact physical location is just valueless pedantry, when the meaning was fully understandable.

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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> A giant corporation buys a Silicon Valley company I don't know what you mean by 'giant corporation' and 'Silicon Valley company' - do you think these groups are distinct? RedHat isn't a 'Silicon Valley company' as far as I know. It's from the east coast - North Carolina isn't it? The Carolinas seem as far as you can get from Silicon Valley, culturally and geographically. And many Silicon Valley companies are tradit…

So, we don't think the linux community and companies are much different from century-old business-process company with 1/3 million employees? Is this really a question, or just pedantry?

I find connection redhat has with the Linux community about the same as Intel's since at least as far back as 2008. I also know people who were as likely to get jobs at redhat as and of the other big Corp techs, I.e. Dell, Cisco. Is there really something distinct about red hat beyond the trademark and distant memories?

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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Enough with the digressions! An open-source-foundational company with roots in the microcomputer revolution, vs IBM? Is there anybody who doesn't see the difference? And no, IBM did not invent the microcomputer revolution - far, far from it. They put out an expensive iron boat anchor using other people's chips and designs that saddled the industry with obsolete choices for a decade. Just like you'd expect from a gian…

> An open-source-foundational company Well that ain't Silicon Valley! You're taking an extremely modern view and projecting it back! Silicon Valley was historically defence silicon and CIA contracts!

> Well that ain't Silicon Valley!

It absolutely is in the culture sense in which most people understand what that means, and how that those words are often used.

Words are not always used to refer to their literal dictionary definition. Instead, words can have multiple meanings, and people can use them to refer to coloquial definitions.

This is a common way of talking about these types of companies. I can't really help someone if they aren't able to understand the idea that words don't always refer to their literal definition.

Re: IBM Is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning

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VMware has been one of the few companies to be bought by an old dinosaur of tech (Dell) and so far, managed to survive. It helps that they're much closer to equal with Dell than RedHat and IBM, but I'm pretty sure RedHat knew exactly what they were doing when they decided to let IBM in the door.

> but I'm pretty sure RedHat knew exactly what they were doing when they decided to let IBM in the door.

Call me cynical but isn't it possible that the people who were responsible for the acquisition on RedHat's side were also the ones who would benefit most from it financially so they simply sold out?

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