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Re: Broccoli: Syncing Faster by Syncing Less

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Post by CJefferson » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 6:28 AM UTC

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #50

CJefferson wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding is Dropbox used to first hash file, then see if a copy was already uploaded. That was removed as it was being used for piracy. Does Dropbox still upload everything, even if the user has uploaded it before?

> My understanding is Dropbox used to first hash file, then see if a copy was already uploaded. That was removed as it was being used for piracy. How's that work? Somehow modify the client to say that you have a file with a user-provided hash even though it doesn't actually exist on disk?

Yes, that's exactly what people were doing -- then you could pirate a film by only distributing the hash.

Re: Broccoli: Syncing Faster by Syncing Less

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Post by rcarmo » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 7:15 AM UTC

Hamuko wrote: post #49

manigandham wrote: post #30

This is why I continue to use Dropbox for daily work and constantly changing files. The syncing is unmatched. It’s surprising how bad the others like OneDrive and google drive are in comparison.

I recently switched from Dropbox because of the added device limitations for the free tier and because I don't really want to pay 10 euro a month for 2 TB of space when I only need 10 GB. Got myself a Nextcloud instance for third of the cost and I have to say that the syncing absolutely sucks. It's so bad that I'm going to migrate away from it as well. Not going back to Dropbox yet though. I'd rather try out Google D…

I stopped paying for Dropbox precisely because there was no sensibly-sized plan (150GB working set, was paying for 2TB and an extremely bloated desktop client). Decided to move everything to a combination of OneDrive (which I had been resisting for years) and SyncThing (which is OK but crufty):

https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2020/06/21/1600

Re: Broccoli: Syncing Faster by Syncing Less

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Post by rcarmo » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 7:18 AM UTC

daniel_rh wrote: post #2

Hi folks, I'm Daniel from Dropbox, and I am happy to answer any questions about this tech.

Hi Daniel,

Does this pave the way for a “lite” version of the Dropbox client that _only_ syncs files and has none of the “added value” bloat that has crept in of late?

That was one of the reasons I cancelled my paid plan: https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2020/06/21/1600

Re: Broccoli: Syncing Faster by Syncing Less

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Post by nawook » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 7:53 AM UTC

Hamuko wrote: post #49

manigandham wrote: post #30

This is why I continue to use Dropbox for daily work and constantly changing files. The syncing is unmatched. It’s surprising how bad the others like OneDrive and google drive are in comparison.

I recently switched from Dropbox because of the added device limitations for the free tier and because I don't really want to pay 10 euro a month for 2 TB of space when I only need 10 GB. Got myself a Nextcloud instance for third of the cost and I have to say that the syncing absolutely sucks. It's so bad that I'm going to migrate away from it as well. Not going back to Dropbox yet though. I'd rather try out Google D…

I had the same issue, especially w/ syncing a large amount of small files, and switched from nextcloud to seafile which works way better on the same hardware.

Re: Broccoli: Syncing Faster by Syncing Less

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Post by Osiris » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 8:07 AM UTC

daniel_rh wrote: post #2

Hi folks, I'm Daniel from Dropbox, and I am happy to answer any questions about this tech.

When are you going to offer a cheaper plan with less storage for people that only need I lucked out and have 2 free plans that have bonus storage from various promotions. I get about 25 GB per account. I haven't maxed either one.

I absolutely love the product. My wife scans a file, I can grab it right away. I'm at work and need some document (e.g., my driver's license photo), I hop on the website and download it.

I pay $5 for backblaze to backup 5TB. I don't want to spend $10 a month for storage I'll never use (I couldn't even keep that much synced on most of my devices) but I'd gladly pay $3-5 a month for 50-100GB.

For now, I'll keep mooching with my free plan.

Re: Broccoli: Syncing Faster by Syncing Less

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Post by daniel_rh » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 8:20 AM UTC

Osiris wrote: post #55

daniel_rh wrote: post #2

Hi folks, I'm Daniel from Dropbox, and I am happy to answer any questions about this tech.

When are you going to offer a cheaper plan with less storage for people that only need I lucked out and have 2 free plans that have bonus storage from various promotions. I get about 25 GB per account. I haven't maxed either one. I absolutely love the product. My wife scans a file, I can grab it right away. I'm at work and need some document (e.g., my driver's license photo), I hop on the website and download it. I p…

There's the family plan which offers up to 6 members an account for a great monthly price.

https://help.dropbox.com/accounts-billing/plans-upgrades/dro...

With Dropbox Family, each member of the plan has their own Dropbox account. A single person, the Family manager, will manage the billing and memberships for the entire Family plan.

Re: Broccoli: Syncing Faster by Syncing Less

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Post by gnramires » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 4:36 PM UTC

manigandham wrote: post #30

This is why I continue to use Dropbox for daily work and constantly changing files. The syncing is unmatched. It’s surprising how bad the others like OneDrive and google drive are in comparison.

I use Seafile, an open source alternative (with a German provider), and it works surprisingly well.

Re: Broccoli: Syncing Faster by Syncing Less

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Post by cparsons3000 » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 8:32 PM UTC

Osiris wrote: post #55

daniel_rh wrote: post #2

Hi folks, I'm Daniel from Dropbox, and I am happy to answer any questions about this tech.

When are you going to offer a cheaper plan with less storage for people that only need I lucked out and have 2 free plans that have bonus storage from various promotions. I get about 25 GB per account. I haven't maxed either one. I absolutely love the product. My wife scans a file, I can grab it right away. I'm at work and need some document (e.g., my driver's license photo), I hop on the website and download it. I p…

Check out Bookmark OS. Has 20GB storage. May be able to suit your needs https://bookmarkos.com