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Re: An Email got us $5k in AWS Credits

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$100k is another employee for free. That's a significant sum for an early stage startup.

Why should startups backed by powerful institutional capital get more credits from AWS than ones that are bootstrapped and hurting for cash much more?

Because they’re more likely to succeed and spend real cash with AWS later.

Amazon’s a business, not a charity.

Re: An Email got us $5k in AWS Credits

#52

In case anyone doesn't know this, for just about any venture-backed company that has gone through YC or another incubator or raised from an early-stage VC, you can pretty much automatically get $100k of credits from Google or AWS. Good on Stripe and Atlas for making this more available to more bootstrapped companies like the one in this post, but there's certainly a huge difference between $1k or $5k and $100k. On th…

It's just a way to have free vetting. If you have a bunch of cash to deliver to startups in order to reap the rewards of lock-in a few years down the line, which do you do?

1) Ask for applications and pay people to mass review applications to pick which startups are more likely to succeed

2) Have 1) be done by proxy for you for free, by only giving it out to startups who a professional "startup success predictor person" has already invested in

They've chosen to go with 2.

Re: An Email got us $5k in AWS Credits

#53

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Who is being accused? Of what? ISTM a general statement about the world accuses no one in particular of anything.

A good way to tell if a comment is rude or accusatory is to replace the people you're talking about with people you like. > Just remember to acknowledge how exceedingly well this works for Jews and the uphill battle faced by others. The above comment doesn't sound good and shouldn't be accepted by the community. Neither should the comment against whites.

"Doesn't sound good" contributes nothing to the discussion, other than betraying your lack of understanding. Ethics does not depend on personal preferences, and it's ridiculous to suggest I "like" Jews more than I "like" white people. As it happens, in certain circumstances the substitution you seem to intend as some sort of reductio ad absurdum would make perfect sense. Since I recently watched "Uncut Gems" and I love "Snatch", I'm thinking of the diamond industry in New York and Antwerp. Doesn't it seem fair to say that someone from those particular communities would have a leg up in that business?

The centuries-long struggle for increased equality in USA has little to do with whom one "likes" or not. Your fixation on personal preference shows how little of this you understand.

Re: An Email got us $5k in AWS Credits

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A good way to tell if a comment is rude or accusatory is to replace the people you're talking about with people you like. > Just remember to acknowledge how exceedingly well this works for Jews and the uphill battle faced by others. The above comment doesn't sound good and shouldn't be accepted by the community. Neither should the comment against whites.

"Doesn't sound good" contributes nothing to the discussion, other than betraying your lack of understanding. Ethics does not depend on personal preferences, and it's ridiculous to suggest I "like" Jews more than I "like" white people. As it happens, in certain circumstances the substitution you seem to intend as some sort of reductio ad absurdum would make perfect sense. Since I recently watched "Uncut Gems" and I lo…

"Doesn't sound good" contributes nothing to the discussion.

It's racist and discriminatory, I just didn't deem it necessary to use such direct, harsh language about what many consider a touchy subject.

it's ridiculous to suggest I "like" Jews more than I "like" white people

I used Jews as an example because Post-WW2 teachings of Jewish suppression would make the comparison more relatable to most people. That plus their relative per-person power distribution is more comparable to whites than, say, African Americans, making the comparison more fair. Use whatever group you like in substitution. The point is that you interpret such messages differently if the person is part of your "tribe."

Your fixation on personal preference shows how little of this you understand.

This moves into personal attack. That's unproductive.

Re: An Email got us $5k in AWS Credits

#55
Nice to hear Stripe actually caring for their customers.

Besides that, I think your product serves a wonderful niche. Had the exact problem of hosting a static site for a customer and actually needed to host a full Python backend eventually to receive form submissions. In the future I'll just use formcake.

Re: An Email got us $5k in AWS Credits

#56

This type of infrastructure credits can really accelerate a bootstrapped startup, unfortunately almost every major provider of such freebies have now moved on to 'Contact your nearest Accelerator/VC' type model. Google was the first to move that way, now Microsoft has cancelled its Bootstrap program and even Facebook has done away with its Startup Accelerator program in favour of 'Contact your nearest Accelerator/VC…

Dude. WHAT are you doing.

I understand that your situation mandates a bit of pragmatism in order to survive.

If that is the case, why are you painting a target on your back?

Do you seriously think nobody at Facebook reads this?

You just admitted, with your REAL NAME, that you basically lied to Facebook about information that actively poses a liability to them and took their money.

I am seriously baffled as to why you think this comment was a good idea.

I am not trying to antagonize you, but highlighting the fact that you are vulnerable while publicizing information that exacerbates the situation does not align here.

Re: An Email got us $5k in AWS Credits

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post #56

This type of infrastructure credits can really accelerate a bootstrapped startup, unfortunately almost every major provider of such freebies have now moved on to 'Contact your nearest Accelerator/VC' type model. Google was the first to move that way, now Microsoft has cancelled its Bootstrap program and even Facebook has done away with its Startup Accelerator program in favour of 'Contact your nearest Accelerator/VC…

Dude. WHAT are you doing. I understand that your situation mandates a bit of pragmatism in order to survive. If that is the case, why are you painting a target on your back? Do you seriously think nobody at Facebook reads this? You just admitted, with your REAL NAME, that you basically lied to Facebook about information that actively poses a liability to them and took their money. I am seriously baffled as to why you…

I think you might be overreacting to this, he said Facebook didn't know his situation, that doesn't mean he lied about it. It's not really necessarily relevant where he's from or what disabilities he has.

Re: An Email got us $5k in AWS Credits

#58
post #56

This type of infrastructure credits can really accelerate a bootstrapped startup, unfortunately almost every major provider of such freebies have now moved on to 'Contact your nearest Accelerator/VC' type model. Google was the first to move that way, now Microsoft has cancelled its Bootstrap program and even Facebook has done away with its Startup Accelerator program in favour of 'Contact your nearest Accelerator/VC…

Dude. WHAT are you doing. I understand that your situation mandates a bit of pragmatism in order to survive. If that is the case, why are you painting a target on your back? Do you seriously think nobody at Facebook reads this? You just admitted, with your REAL NAME, that you basically lied to Facebook about information that actively poses a liability to them and took their money. I am seriously baffled as to why you…

I told Facebook doesn't know "I'm disabled" that's all, To imply I got selected meritoriously.

Obviously everything about my Startup was part of my application details, since my application was hosted on Facebook platform(messenger app) it knew the statistics as well and I believe that's the reason it got selected.

Then again, its Facebook we are talking about here, it might even know what I had for breakfast the day I applied.

But I believe you made that comment out of concern of my well-being, I appreciate that and I apologise if my sentence formation caused unnecessary confusion.

P.S. I use my real name here to own accountability of the things I write here and to ensure I don't compromise my integrity in the lure of anonymity/pseudo-anonymity(No offence to anyone who don't use their real name, I understand).

Re: An Email got us $5k in AWS Credits

#59

In case anyone doesn't know this, for just about any venture-backed company that has gone through YC or another incubator or raised from an early-stage VC, you can pretty much automatically get $100k of credits from Google or AWS. Good on Stripe and Atlas for making this more available to more bootstrapped companies like the one in this post, but there's certainly a huge difference between $1k or $5k and $100k. On th…

> In case anyone doesn't know this, for just about any venture-backed company that has gone through YC or another incubator or raised from an early-stage VC, you can pretty much automatically get $100k of credits from Google or AWS. This seems very backward, because you also don’t really need those credits anymore at that point.

The whole point is to get you hooked in the first place.

Scenario

1. You succeed, your startup is now worth something ( big or small ), you will be dealing with scaling issues, people issues, marketing issues, profits issues or gazillion of other small things, the last thing you want is switching your infrastructure provide.

2. You failed, or burn through those cash, but not to worry, since your are backed by incubator or early stage VC, the likely hood of you getting another round of funding is high. And those will be used on AWS anyway.

There are very little downside to AWS but lots of upside.

Re: An Email got us $5k in AWS Credits

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Doesn't sound good" contributes nothing to the discussion, other than betraying your lack of understanding. Ethics does not depend on personal preferences, and it's ridiculous to suggest I "like" Jews more than I "like" white people. As it happens, in certain circumstances the substitution you seem to intend as some sort of reductio ad absurdum would make perfect sense. Since I recently watched "Uncut Gems" and I lo…

"Doesn't sound good" contributes nothing to the discussion. It's racist and discriminatory, I just didn't deem it necessary to use such direct, harsh language about what many consider a touchy subject. it's ridiculous to suggest I "like" Jews more than I "like" white people I used Jews as an example because Post-WW2 teachings of Jewish suppression would make the comparison more relatable to most people. That plus the…

In fact, I am a white Caucasian but I am not a Jew. At this point, one such as myself would have to have his head up his ass not to realize that racism exists in USA, and it manifests among other ways in the privilege enjoyed by many (but of course not all!) white people in USA business contexts. "Racist" isn't a bad word. Many aspects of our society are actually racist, and we need a word to describe that situation.

You write as if the worst thing one can do when one observes racism is to call it by its name. In fact that's just about the only good response we have. If you think someone is being racist then tell them about it. Just be prepared for laughter when they discover that what you're really whinging about is being reminded that privilege exists. If you really were e.g. a white handicapped high school dropout from eastern Kentucky, you wouldn't be surprised, because you'd see thread parent's privilege just as clearly as any minority sees it.

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