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How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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Post by cosmodisk »

burntoutfire wrote: post #24
oarsinsync wrote: post #3

I'm not sure how I feel about the screenshot at the end, showing that various policy makers also have their personal information being sold. I guess the information is out there, and doing so also makes it definitively personal for the policy makers / enforcers involved. That said, the policy makers / enforcers may be genuinely hamstrung. The US imposes its laws globally because of it's status as a global reserve cur…

> trading in USD requires the transaction to route via the US Is this correct? How's that enforced? Say, I have a company in Poland which sells some goods for a million dollars to another company in Poland. We both have USD accounts in Polish banks and the transfer is between these accounts. How does the money route via the US?

It gets quite interesting when foreign currency is involved: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostro_and_vostro_accounts

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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Post by andyzweb »

villgax wrote: post #35

This same BS is perpetuated by YC backed Apollo.io by simply scraping public LinkedIn profiles & then masking asterisked emails & numbers(usually your company public numbers) & asking people to sign up. And when you do request them to remove the same, they ask you to provide ID proof. As if one would provide the same to a company which didn't take your consent for the initial profile data either. I somehow managed to…

Maybe post the CEO’s email here so we can all get our data removed as well?

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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Post by ThrustVectoring »

arpinum wrote: post #7

Does GDPR apply here? They might not be selling to the EU, and they aren’t monitoring EU persons but just selling historic information. I don’t read GDPR as applying globally to any and all trade in EU personal data. https://gdpr.eu/companies-outside-of-europe/

GDPR applies, it has worldwide scope for data on EU citizens. On the other hand, European courts lack jurisdiction to enforce their laws on companies without EU offices and assets.

FWIW I'm really glad that EU courts lack this jurisdiction - any gain from privacy would more than be wiped out from losses to free speech, especially with the extensive history of libel tourism.

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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Post by Sebb767 »

We've actually been threatened with a lawsuit because RocketReach displayed some obviously inflated revenue for one of our customers. Luckily, we were able to prove that the numbers were changed recently and threatened to report them for fraud, which ended this pretty quickly.

Seriously shady company.

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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Post by SippinLean »

villgax wrote: post #35

This same BS is perpetuated by YC backed Apollo.io by simply scraping public LinkedIn profiles & then masking asterisked emails & numbers(usually your company public numbers) & asking people to sign up. And when you do request them to remove the same, they ask you to provide ID proof. As if one would provide the same to a company which didn't take your consent for the initial profile data either. I somehow managed to…

There are at least 50 data brokers I've had my information removed from. They will say whatever they can--"we need proof," "it's just public information anyway."

Every time I insisted they take it down, right now. Every time they have complied.

There's so many it's basically pulling weeds at this point.

The scarier companies are the ones collecting pictures of your face to train their private facial recognition software.

(Hell I'm hesitant to post HERE because you can't manage the privacy, content or existence of your comments)

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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SippinLean wrote: post #55
villgax wrote: post #35

This same BS is perpetuated by YC backed Apollo.io by simply scraping public LinkedIn profiles & then masking asterisked emails & numbers(usually your company public numbers) & asking people to sign up. And when you do request them to remove the same, they ask you to provide ID proof. As if one would provide the same to a company which didn't take your consent for the initial profile data either. I somehow managed to…

There are at least 50 data brokers I've had my information removed from. They will say whatever they can--"we need proof," "it's just public information anyway." Every time I insisted they take it down, right now. Every time they have complied. There's so many it's basically pulling weeds at this point. The scarier companies are the ones collecting pictures of your face to train their private facial recognition softw…

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Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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Post by rvnx »

SippinLean wrote: post #55
villgax wrote: post #35

This same BS is perpetuated by YC backed Apollo.io by simply scraping public LinkedIn profiles & then masking asterisked emails & numbers(usually your company public numbers) & asking people to sign up. And when you do request them to remove the same, they ask you to provide ID proof. As if one would provide the same to a company which didn't take your consent for the initial profile data either. I somehow managed to…

There are at least 50 data brokers I've had my information removed from. They will say whatever they can--"we need proof," "it's just public information anyway." Every time I insisted they take it down, right now. Every time they have complied. There's so many it's basically pulling weeds at this point. The scarier companies are the ones collecting pictures of your face to train their private facial recognition softw…

Some data brokers are threatening you with "if you get removed from our database you will be marked as high risk of fraud and your transactions/orders you do online like hotel reservations will get rejected/put on hold for screening".

Well played. Absolutely legal but totally immoral

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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Post by rvnx »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #21
secondcoming wrote: post #4

Now watch the entire currently-EU based adtech industry relocate out of the EU...

It’s like drug cartels relocating from Mexico: noone will feel sorry.

I don't see Google or Facebook relocating to Mexico soon. They don't have to, when they finance politicians

Re: How to effectively evade the GDPR and the reach of the DPA

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Post by garmaine »

josefx wrote: post #19
oarsinsync wrote: post #3

I'm not sure how I feel about the screenshot at the end, showing that various policy makers also have their personal information being sold. I guess the information is out there, and doing so also makes it definitively personal for the policy makers / enforcers involved. That said, the policy makers / enforcers may be genuinely hamstrung. The US imposes its laws globally because of it's status as a global reserve cur…

> The EU doesn't have such status or power over US companies. US companies operating in the EU are subject to EU law. Worst case the company itself doesn't operate in the EU, however that still leaves its customers (Intel, AirBnB, etc. ) potential targets to apply pressure on.

Does RocketReach have servers in the EU? Employees? Subsidiaries?

I generally don’t know in this case. But in general my European friends seem to think that merely having someone from the EU access a website makes that website’s owner have a presence in the EU, even if the server that handled it isn’t. That seems like overreach to me. If that were the case, I’d block EU access for any of my domains, and I don’t think we want a future where that becomes the norm. The ideals of the Internet are free exchange of ideas and information, no country-specific walled gardens.

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