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Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by brnt »

nomel wrote: post #46
em-bee wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it still makes a difference, i struggle to use my current phone one-handed. reaching the other edge with my thumb is always a pain. i welcome a smaller but thicker phone.

I get hate every time I demonstrate mine, especially from males, but something like a pop socket really makes handling a phone a much nicer experience.

You're not wrong, but I'd still rather see phones that aren't thin slabs fully touch sensitive ob one side. This design is but no means ergonomic. I'd kill for a Blackberry again. The Q5/Q10 really hit the sweet spot for me.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by frabbit »

dencodev wrote: post #49

I was eager to buy this and even had the kickstarter on my calendar and checked it first thing this morning after waking up (PST). Unfortunately $129 was really the limit of what I was willing to pay and they're out of that tier of pricing. I cannot imagine this retailing at $200 and doing well. I guess I'll pickup a used one in a year when someone gets bored with it. I have the first one and it's great for the gym o…

Agreed on the SIM swapping being irritating. It would be nice if it were in some sort of caddy. I also have a spare battery and find it irritating to swap it out.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by Yetanfou »

It looks like a downsized version of the Motorola Defy which I'm still using on and off. It has the same screen resolution on a smaller screen (the Defy has a 3.7" screen). The selling point for the Defy was the fact that is was waterproof and relatively sturdy (which is proven by the fact that I haven't managed to break it in 9 years of rough use), I'm still waiting for a similar but more up to date device to appear. There is no information on whether this device is waterproof, this question is asked in the FAQ but not answered.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

nomel wrote: post #46
em-bee wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it still makes a difference, i struggle to use my current phone one-handed. reaching the other edge with my thumb is always a pain. i welcome a smaller but thicker phone.

I get hate every time I demonstrate mine, especially from males, but something like a pop socket really makes handling a phone a much nicer experience.

How do you not snap the phone with one of those on it?

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by Klinky »

RandomBacon wrote: post #45
Klinky wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this is the case. It has a decent P60 SoC w/ 6GB of RAM and Android 10 support. None of the mini phones I could find on Alibaba were anywhere close in spec. Even the term you highlighted was for 3.5" screen, not 3.0" screen.

I imagine it's not hard to track down whomever makes the phone on Alibaba and pay them a few extra dollars to put in a few better chips. Then use Kickstarter magic to advertise it, and pocket the difference. What's the actual evidence that they designed and made it, a screenshot of the CAD file in the video? They never actually claim they created it themselves and tested iterations etc like actual phone manufacturers…

You're moving goal posts. I would say if they had to ask for a different SoC to be put in a smaller chassis, that is custom work, and has risk.

Supposedly they are a subsidiary of AGold Communication Co. Ltd. which claims to have manufacturing experience, though their website is sparse and they have really old phones on there.

Even if they didn't wholly design it, I don't think it's fair to claim they are marketing a cookie-cutter design you can easily obtain off Alibaba, since you can't.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by jjav »

According to the linked page, the Jelly 2 is 95mm * 50mm * 17mm.

The Palm phone is 97mm * 51mm * 7mm, so it's smaller (particularly a lot thinner) than the Jelly 2.

Still, it's wonderful to see more options in the pocket-sized phones!! A vastly under-served market.

I bought the Palm phone after it was discussed here a month or so back. Very happy with it, actually fits in my pocket and I can't feel it's there.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by brutt »

axegon_ wrote: post #38
brutt wrote: post #27

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Which extended features you need to have on the bicycle computer, for example? I'm already overwhelmed with features my bicomp has. (I use SC Dash M50, because I like it small pebble like size).

Generally what I said above: map, strava, camera mounted under the seat as a mirror(all mirrors I've seen take a lot of space on the handlebars), music player, notifications, calls and whatnot. I don't ride a bike every day(usually it's twice a week) but my rides are in the 60-80km range so having the basics in front of me would be absolutely perfect. At the moment every time I want to check a notification or pause s…

Map - I have map on my bicomp.

Strava - I can upload my route to Strava from phone connected by BLE.

Mirror - yeah, it will be nice to have. Currently, I use my ears for tracking cars behind me, which saved me lot of times. I had moped mirror mounted on handlebars for about month: it was good, but I broke it very fast. Also, I had tiny mirror on pole/stick?(non native speaker) manually soldered to left side of my glasses with metal frame: it worked good, but I look dumb when I wear them, and they were hard to store, so mirror was scratched and damaged in few days. I plan to make new version, using flex leg from another glasses with metal frame, so I will be able to fold mirror.

Music player - I use cheap Chinese open-ear headphones(Atlanfa, cannot find them online) with built-in player and FM radio. I use them almost every day. They are open ear, so I hear road very well, especially with reduced volume. They work for about 2h with FM radio on, which is enough for me.

Notifications - my bicomp can display notifications and call info from phone attached by BLE, and my headphones are alerting me too about notifications and allows me to respond to calls. However, I have problem on my bicomp (Dash M50) with notifications with emoj: they are truncated after first emoj. Sometimes, emoj is the first letter in the text. :-(

I ride for about 25km daily to/from work in hilly area.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by zvr »

jaredandrews wrote: post #3

Anyone here ever get one of their older devices?

I have the original Jelly and use it a lot when I travel back to my home country, so I don't have to change SIMs. VERY liberating to suddenly not having to carry a larger device. Not much app-use for me though: phone calls, Signal, SMS and an occasional Google search or map.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by nomel »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #54
nomel wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get hate every time I demonstrate mine, especially from males, but something like a pop socket really makes handling a phone a much nicer experience.

How do you not snap the phone with one of those on it?

I don't understand the question. The pop socket doesn't apply any force. I suppose if you sit on the phone it could bend easier. I do not do this.
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