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Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#51

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Lewandowski still apparently took massive amounts of proprietary data from his employer. Even if he was smart enough to not put that data on his new companies systems we all know he had a way to reference it when necessary.

I think the plea deal actually debunked the idea that he took docs. Govt could only "get him" on a meeting minutes doc. And the trade secrets that were found at Uber were software brought over by software engineers that haven't been charged.

Here's his own quote: "I downloaded this file with the intent to use it for the benefit of someone other than Google,"

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/former-google-self-dr...

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#52

It's a .docx file. Potential for malicious macros?

.docx files don't have macros, only .docm files do. Though I still viewed it using Google Drive's preview.

> .docx files don't have macros, only .docm files do.

As if a filename extension means anything at all.

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#53
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While I don't think Levandowski is a good guy (he did take a bunch of files, even if I think it's unlikely they were used in any real way), I think the way Google pursued him hinders skilled individuals from switching between companies and spreading innovation. Here's an excerpt from a New Yorker article about the case: > The judge, William Alsup, quickly tired of such distractions. “Despite the excellent quality of…

Lewandowski still apparently took massive amounts of proprietary data from his employer. Even if he was smart enough to not put that data on his new companies systems we all know he had a way to reference it when necessary.

IIRC he allegedly also tried to wipe all evidence of it which is why it was hard to prove. So it seems he knew what he was doing.

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#54

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Here we go with the "bad apples" again. Let's face it. It was all fun and games until silicon valley was the underdog. Now this place makes and inevitably breaks the world. As is natural, places of power will attract people of malice. It will bring out selfishness and pride from a fraction of any random group of people that are given this opportunity. The undoing of any rebellion is the flawed belief that the rebels…

You have basically applied trotsky's theory of eternal revolution to the tech world. Whoever is in power must always be challenged, even if they were once the ones denouncing those in power.

Trotsky was wrong on a lot of things, but the necessity to hold power in check is something he got preciently and very right.

One should always indeed challenge those in power, if only because it leads to better outcomes for all.

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#55

It's a .docx file. Potential for malicious macros?

I used filebin to create a link - should be fine. Otherwise the doc is behind a paywall.

FileBin. Really?

I have news for you. The file itself is real but it's also acting suspiciously like malware. (Opens a second document showing a "hire me!" message and downloading another file)

I was lucky to spin up a VM, open it and I saw that message.

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#56
post #28

While I don't think Levandowski is a good guy (he did take a bunch of files, even if I think it's unlikely they were used in any real way), I think the way Google pursued him hinders skilled individuals from switching between companies and spreading innovation. Here's an excerpt from a New Yorker article about the case: > The judge, William Alsup, quickly tired of such distractions. “Despite the excellent quality of…

Is it really so difficult to not make massive archives shortly before quitting your current employer? The GS programmer had the same problem. Somehow unable to simply walk away without making a backup of everything.

> make massive archives shortly before quitting your current employer

What's the rule on this? two weeks? three months? two years?

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#57

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Is it really so difficult to not make massive archives shortly before quitting your current employer? The GS programmer had the same problem. Somehow unable to simply walk away without making a backup of everything.

> make massive archives shortly before quitting your current employer What's the rule on this? two weeks? three months? two years?

The rule is never. You're never allowed to steal a massive data dump of your employer's IP.

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#58

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> make massive archives shortly before quitting your current employer What's the rule on this? two weeks? three months? two years?

The rule is never. You're never allowed to steal a massive data dump of your employer's IP.

parent said 'make massive archives'... I'm just in charge of backups.

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#59
post #50

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And Uber didn't do anything wrong at all. >These people are the cancer of Silicon Valley that generally has integrity and decency in pursuing startup endeavors The very same SV that has Airbnb, doordash, grubhub et all? give me a break

Oof, bad example there. Airbnb is cancer. It’s enabling people to run illegal hotels in residential neighborhoods, allowing people to cash in when their neighbors pay the price and driving up rents. And no I don’t care if you’ve had use out of it or you feel like “it’s my property, I can do what I want with it”, which is an entirely self-serving rationalization that doesn’t stand up any sort of scrutiny.

FWIW, you are agreeing with the comment you replied to - they are saying AirBnB, et al., are definitely not companies helmed by do-gooders and morally sound people.

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#60
This is an interesting claim. It basically says that Uber knew about Levandowski's crimes when they agreed to indemnify him against claims brought by Google. Given the way Uber seems to work, this wouldn't surprise me at all. There seems to be a lot of bullshit in this claim, but that specific piece wouldn't surprise me.

Mostly unrelatedly, this part seems particularly shitty:

> In fact, Uber had considered acquiring Tyto in 2015 but declined to do so at that time. Tyto was ultimately acquired by Otto with Uber’s consent and at Uber’s request prior to Uber closing on its acquisition of Otto to secure a lower price for Tyto than what Tyto would have requested had it known that Uber was the acquirer.

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