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The TikTok War

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Re: The TikTok War

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> It's replaced rants and frustration with laughter and positivity. ... and Chinese spyware in the pockets of children.

Not sure I consider Chinese spyware any worse than the US spyware of Facebook, as a resident of neither country. Hand wringing about TikTok seems more rooted in sinophobia than genuine privacy concerns, from where I’m sitting.

Do you agree with the censorship and propaganda policies of mainland China? If not, Sinophobia is not paranoia.

Re: The TikTok War

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I am also deeply fascinated by TikTok. It is really next generation social media. Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Hacker News all look seriously dated in comparison.

In what way exactly are you comparing tiktok to HN?

I don't agree with the parent comment's characterization, but I see sites like HN and Reddit described as "social media" all the time.

For those us whose Internet citizenship pre-dates Friendster and MySpace, the term "social media" has a particular meaning.

But for many younger "social media natives", the term basically just means "any website or app where you can make posts or comments".

Re: The TikTok War

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In what way exactly are you comparing tiktok to HN?

He must be delusional. Tiktok is for dancing videos as far as I can tell. The parent comment and down are taking stances that I would never expect on HN. Something is off, there is nothing ‘refreshing’ about tiktok.

He has a point though, HN has a serious lack of dancing videos.

Re: The TikTok War

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In what way exactly are you comparing tiktok to HN?

Yeah. You are right. There are big diffferences. For one: You can joke on TikTok ...

>For one: You can joke on TikTok ...

Choke not joke...big difference

Re: The TikTok War

#56
I don't see the problem.

TikTok will be banned. SV will do a US based replacement. All will be good.

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#57

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Not sure I consider Chinese spyware any worse than the US spyware of Facebook, as a resident of neither country. Hand wringing about TikTok seems more rooted in sinophobia than genuine privacy concerns, from where I’m sitting.

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Indeed, I know many Chinese people who are afraid of the Chinese state.

Re: The TikTok War

#58
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In what way exactly are you comparing tiktok to HN?

He must be delusional. Tiktok is for dancing videos as far as I can tell. The parent comment and down are taking stances that I would never expect on HN. Something is off, there is nothing ‘refreshing’ about tiktok.

I think you're underestimating how user-specific the feed is. I recently uninstalled it, but I was getting 5% dancing videos at best (worst?). The vast majority of my feed was animal videos, comedy skits, video games, and anime clips.

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> It's replaced rants and frustration with laughter and positivity. ... and Chinese spyware in the pockets of children.

Since the copy/paste exploit was addressed (in ios) I'm not sure what useful information "chinese spyware" can gather from this app. As long as it's being used for goofy dance and lip sync videos, I don't see the harm.

My personal feeling is that Tiktok is better then most other social media for the end users emotional state, at least based on my wife's usage.

From a spying perspective, I tend to agree with you as well.

That said - China doesn't let FB or Twitter in their country, why the hell should the US let them in ours? To me it is akin to letting them buy the NY Times or CNN. They may be benign now, but if tensions were to continue mounting, they could greatly influence the content a significant portion of people in the US are receiving. I see 0 reason to trust them with that power.

Re: The TikTok War

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In what way exactly are you comparing tiktok to HN?

Yeah. You are right. There are big diffferences. For one: You can joke on TikTok ...

If that was a joke you might be overestimating your skills :P
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