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Re: James Gosling joining Google

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Makes me wonder whether they will bring out a competitor to Java, maybe for Android.

They already have at least one world class language designer in Guido. They also have the Go language. Point being that if they wanted a competing language to Java, they probably already had the talent to get it done. (Or just, you know, use Mono/C#).

This is a very solid point. Having an internally developed language like Go (which is, according to Rob Pike, being used "for real stuff" inside of Google), the creator of Python (one of the most widely used languages in recent years) and the creator of Java (one of the most widely used languages for at least a decade now) under one roof has to be an embarrassment of riches for any group intending to innovate in the programming language space.

Re: James Gosling joining Google

#53

This should add an interesting (though legally irrelevant) twist to the Oracle lawsuit, since they're litigating with some of Gosling's patents.

There could be legal relevance in expert testimony - "We considered this aspect obvious", "There was prior art in this aspect", etc.

Re: James Gosling joining Google

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Makes me wonder whether they will bring out a competitor to Java, maybe for Android.

They already have at least one world class language designer in Guido. They also have the Go language. Point being that if they wanted a competing language to Java, they probably already had the talent to get it done. (Or just, you know, use Mono/C#).

Add Josh Bloch, Google's Chief Java Architect to that list.

Re: James Gosling joining Google

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One year almost to the day since he quit Sun/Oracle (see http://nighthacks.com/roller/jag/entry/time_to_move_on ). That probably means he had a 1-year non-compete built into his employment agreement which he had to wait out (which makes me curious about what he could be working on at Google that could trigger that)

So he just didn't see any future at Oracle? :-)

I think maybe the Oracle didn't see any future for him.

Re: James Gosling joining Google

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Many modern, enforceable (even in Cali) non-competes have a clause that provides you full salary/benefits in exchange for not working for any competing firm during that period. Pretty sweet deal for hacking projects you never got around to -- I've seen several folks in finance basically just go dark and hack on the beach for 6mo-1yr before returning to the field.

The actual term for being paid to "not work" is called "being on the beach."

I've heard the term 'gardening timeout'.

Re: James Gosling joining Google

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I once saw Gosling in an airport terminal waiting for a flight. He was consuming a large hot dog. I considered approaching him but decided to respect his privacy. When he finished his hot dog, he threw the messy wrapper directly onto the carpet. It was not a missed shot at the trash can, it was just blithely dropped on the floor. That's when I realized his work on automatic garbage collection had gone too far. I can'…

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