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Comparing how different devices display the SSID “á̶̛̛̓̿̈͐͆̐̇̒̑̈́͘͝aaa”

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Re: Comparing how different devices display the SSID “á̶̛̛̓̿̈͐͆̐̇̒̑̈́͘͝aaa”

#51

And out of curiosity, taking some from this: https://github.com/minimaxir/big-list-of-naughty-strings/blo... especially the Asian ones, seems to varying from mildly amusing to interesting effects, when you try to set them as SSID.

What's so naughty about Lightwater Country Park?

Re: Comparing how different devices display the SSID “á̶̛̛̓̿̈͐͆̐̇̒̑̈́͘͝aaa”

#52
post #25

Ok i am a bit angry, first i was thinking that a fly shit is on my screen, then that my GPU has a problem, then i read the Title ;) It's really crazy, looks completely different on my bsd-box compared to my linux-laptop LOVE IT!!

If you want to share screenshots Ill happily put it up on the site. My email is me (at) hampton {dot} pw

Re: Comparing how different devices display the SSID “á̶̛̛̓̿̈͐͆̐̇̒̑̈́͘͝aaa”

#53
post #50

This is a really good post that shines some light on how the insanity of encodings still isn't fixed today, since so many operating systems still don't completely use Unicode everywhere. Some of the reasonings behind why the characters are displayed like that are slightly incorrect, though, so here are some corrections: I'm going to supply each example here with some python3 code to reproduce with, with the following…

Hey, I am the OP. Thank you so much I will go through and amend what I got wrong, anyway that you wish for me to credit you?

Re: Comparing how different devices display the SSID “á̶̛̛̓̿̈͐͆̐̇̒̑̈́͘͝aaa”

#54
post #50

This is a really good post that shines some light on how the insanity of encodings still isn't fixed today, since so many operating systems still don't completely use Unicode everywhere. Some of the reasonings behind why the characters are displayed like that are slightly incorrect, though, so here are some corrections: I'm going to supply each example here with some python3 code to reproduce with, with the following…

Hey, I am the OP. Thank you so much I will go through and amend what I got wrong, anyway that you wish for me to credit you?

If you want to credit me, just tag my twitter :)

(@theFerdi265)

Re: Comparing how different devices display the SSID “á̶̛̛̓̿̈͐͆̐̇̒̑̈́͘͝aaa”

#55
post #25

Ok i am a bit angry, first i was thinking that a fly shit is on my screen, then that my GPU has a problem, then i read the Title ;) It's really crazy, looks completely different on my bsd-box compared to my linux-laptop LOVE IT!!

If you want to share screenshots Ill happily put it up on the site. My email is me (at) hampton {dot} pw

Sure, here you go:

https://imgur.com/a/Sqjh2TZ

Re: Comparing how different devices display the SSID “á̶̛̛̓̿̈͐͆̐̇̒̑̈́͘͝aaa”

#56
For most of the Western world, if you take the set of all commonly used characters in the language(s) that are widely recognized in each country and form their intersection, you'll have at least the Arabic numerals and plain A-Z.

If SSIDs were restricted to just those characters, it would be fine in the Western World. But of course there is more to the world than the West.

Question: do most or all non-Western languages also have small subsets of characters that would be fine to restrict SSIDs to? For instance, Wikipedia tells me that Persian is written with a 32 character alphabet, and Arabic uses 28 characters for its alphabet.

I'd expect that for every alphabet-based language, there is a similar base set of characters you could reasonably limit SSIDs too, and so avoid all the problems you get with allowing full Unicode.

How about the languages that use logographic writing systems, such as Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese? Do they all have reasonable (albeit probably very large) subsets SSIDs could be limited to that would avoid all their weird stuff that can happen in Unicode but still allow most reasonable names to be used?

Re: Comparing how different devices display the SSID “á̶̛̛̓̿̈͐͆̐̇̒̑̈́͘͝aaa”

#57

And out of curiosity, taking some from this: https://github.com/minimaxir/big-list-of-naughty-strings/blo... especially the Asian ones, seems to varying from mildly amusing to interesting effects, when you try to set them as SSID.

What's so naughty about Lightwater Country Park?

twat

(I'm not calling you a twat, I'm pointing out that twat is probably the problem.)

Re: Comparing how different devices display the SSID “á̶̛̛̓̿̈͐͆̐̇̒̑̈́͘͝aaa”

#58
post #56

For most of the Western world, if you take the set of all commonly used characters in the language(s) that are widely recognized in each country and form their intersection, you'll have at least the Arabic numerals and plain A-Z. If SSIDs were restricted to just those characters, it would be fine in the Western World. But of course there is more to the world than the West. Question: do most or all non-Western languag…

Don't forget that some of these are left-to-right (e.g. Hebrew, Arabic). Words are rendered left-to-right, and early email software would just expect each word to be sent reversed so that simple RTL rendering could be used. UTF solves this (and many other issues) quite nicely.

Re: Comparing how different devices display the SSID “á̶̛̛̓̿̈͐͆̐̇̒̑̈́͘͝aaa”

#59
post #46

I used to have something like this as my SSID: ʕ•̫͡•ʕ ̫͡ ʕ•͓͡•ʔ-̫͡-ʕ•̫͡•ʔ ̫͡ ʔ-̫͡-ʔ (Not this particular one as it was too long though!) Many nice examples at: https://1lineart.kulaone.com/#/ It was fun but some OSes didn't show it correctly, in particular Windows. It would just show it in HEX. And more annoyingly, some devices refused to connect to it at all, especially IoT crap like those WiFi power sockets. So eve…

This worked for me on Windows + Chrome :)

https://i.imgur.com/bJHlPb9.png

EDIT: though not on native HN, I think it might be a result of having HNES installed.

Re: Comparing how different devices display the SSID “á̶̛̛̓̿̈͐͆̐̇̒̑̈́͘͝aaa”

#60
post #46

I used to have something like this as my SSID: ʕ•̫͡•ʕ ̫͡ ʕ•͓͡•ʔ-̫͡-ʕ•̫͡•ʔ ̫͡ ʔ-̫͡-ʔ (Not this particular one as it was too long though!) Many nice examples at: https://1lineart.kulaone.com/#/ It was fun but some OSes didn't show it correctly, in particular Windows. It would just show it in HEX. And more annoyingly, some devices refused to connect to it at all, especially IoT crap like those WiFi power sockets. So eve…

This worked for me on Windows + Chrome :) https://i.imgur.com/bJHlPb9.png EDIT: though not on native HN, I think it might be a result of having HNES installed.

Lol, that's really bad!

On native HN in Firefox Windows it also works but it stops at the "reply" button under my post.

And on native HN on Firefox Mac it doesn't work at all, strange enough. Firefox must rely strongly on the platform rendering.

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