This is of interest to me, but the Electron thing worries me. I already commit a lot of memory to Electron clients (VSCode, Discord, Slack, etc.). Adding another one, even if it replaces Slack, makes me a little concerned for memory economy.
NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat
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Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat
#52Cool, I'm running a Matrix service like this myself but it's been a bit hit and miss. Keeping all those different bridges running over time is difficult. Especially the signal one is a real PITA, often contacts stop getting my messages from matrix while I still get theirs. And Whatsapp requires whatsapp web so you need to keep the client running on your phone 24/7 or run it in an Android VM which is pretty heavy. And…
> Keeping all those different bridges running over time is difficult.
The issue is that most of the services Matrix tries to bridge to are basically hostile entities (except IRC and Slack). I'm honestly shocked how well Matrix bridging works when you take that into consideration -- and unsurprisingly the Slack and IRC bridges are the nicest ones to use. But I will admit that I think Matrix's marketing around bridging as being core to their chat model is a bit of a stretch -- while all of the bridges do work, most are a bit dodgy (and some require you to self-host).
For instance, the Signal bridge is actually a hacked-up version of the Signal Chrome App with a bunch of hooks added so that they can simulate you doing things through the web app. There is a project that uses libsignal-service-java directly to create a more usable CLI and DBus interface[1], but unfortunately they haven't switched to using that (and if it became widely used, Moxie would probably decide to block it). Whatsapp is probably similarly hacked-together.
> It doesn't really do 1:1 chats so every time someone chats with you you get a 'room invite' from the bridge, which you have to accept, and all those old rooms stay forever cluttering up the system.
Maybe this is bridge-specific, but I have several long-lived IRC 1:1 chats that are all in one room. There's nothing stopping a bridge from doing this correctly (as far as I know). As for old rooms cluttering up the system, I believe that (non-joinable) rooms with no members get garbage collected but I might be mistaken.
Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat
#53for a minute I thought I had notion app open due to novachat using same favicon.
They host the site on Notion.
Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat
#54I'm interested to see how they handle the Facebook messenger bridge since FB seems to rather aggressive about the bridge from logging in. I've been running Tulir's bridge [0] for a few months now and my Facebook account gets locked out every week or so (requiring unlocking and a new password). EDIT: Looking at the code, they use Tulir's bridge as well. I'd be..cautious about claming production level support with it d…
I just setup my homeserver as was going to add a FB bridge. That's an interesting thing to note. My server is located in another country so I was weary of launching the bridge to being with since that would probably immediately trigger a security alert. Not sure if it's worth it having my account continually locked out and needing to change my password.
I'm in a similar situation: My bridge/homeserver is in Germany while I'm in the USA.
I've been hanging out in the mautrix-facebook room for a while and as far as I can tell it's different for almost everyone. Some people have no problems, some people just can't use it. Personally, I had minimal problems at first, then no problems for a while, and then after upgrading am in the current state. Other people simply logged into facebook normally from their remote server (i.e using SSH tunneling or something) and then their problems were resolved.
I'd give it a shot for a few days and see if you have a lot of trouble; It's not hard to disable a bridge if it becomes too much hassle. Personally I just add another character to my password and off I go the races, so the occasional five minutes of work for not having to deal with the app on my phone makes it worth it.
Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat
#55Between this, Mastodon, Matrix, and others, I feel like we're witnessing the end of the centralized web era (everyone uses one network), and the return to a distributed Internet (lots of different services) with aggregators (Adium or NovaChat).
The recent Twitch/Reddit/Twitter bans should only magnify this effect. Congrats Eric! I'm very excited to use this.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I just setup my homeserver as was going to add a FB bridge. That's an interesting thing to note. My server is located in another country so I was weary of launching the bridge to being with since that would probably immediately trigger a security alert. Not sure if it's worth it having my account continually locked out and needing to change my password.
I'm in a similar situation: My bridge/homeserver is in Germany while I'm in the USA. I've been hanging out in the mautrix-facebook room for a while and as far as I can tell it's different for almost everyone. Some people have no problems, some people just can't use it. Personally, I had minimal problems at first, then no problems for a while, and then after upgrading am in the current state. Other people simply logge…
My latest trick is to run the FB bridge on a raspberry pi at home, behind my home IP. No problems with FB.
Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat
#58> NovaChat is a paid app with a monthly fee of $10 (price may go up after beta period) Wow $10/mo?! Pidgin was the multi-network chat tool, and was free! I'd understand $10 one-time, but not per month. And the price may go up? No thanks
And is native!
Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat
#59I'm interested to see how they handle the Facebook messenger bridge since FB seems to rather aggressive about the bridge from logging in. I've been running Tulir's bridge [0] for a few months now and my Facebook account gets locked out every week or so (requiring unlocking and a new password). EDIT: Looking at the code, they use Tulir's bridge as well. I'd be..cautious about claming production level support with it d…
Ah well I make no claims to this being production level reliability. It's very much beta software. Very beta :) For those who have the capability of setting up a web server and configuring DNS, I would recommend using matrix-docker-ansible and host it all yourself. The bridgebox is actually designed to run on a raspberry pi, my plan is to give each user a free Pi to run their bridgebox. Send me a note on matrix, I'd…
Just wanted to ask: I signed up for the beta but did I commit to anything? I don't mind trying it out, but do we have to pay the $10 from the start and is there a minimum term?
Re: NovaChat: Multi-Network Chat
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah well I make no claims to this being production level reliability. It's very much beta software. Very beta :) For those who have the capability of setting up a web server and configuring DNS, I would recommend using matrix-docker-ansible and host it all yourself. The bridgebox is actually designed to run on a raspberry pi, my plan is to give each user a free Pi to run their bridgebox. Send me a note on matrix, I'd…
Just wanted to ask: I signed up for the beta but did I commit to anything? I don't mind trying it out, but do we have to pay the $10 from the start and is there a minimum term?
No commitment at all. You can try it out first.