Poll: Would you like tags implemented on HN • Hacker News Board

Re: Poll: Would you like tags implemented on HN

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Post by wladimir » Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 12:40 PM UTC

egor83 wrote: post #50

wladimir wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think tags would be a pretty good idea. I'd like to be able to ignore gadget porn (here's this new iPad cover!) by default, and weigh the programming/science/DIY hacking/design topics higher.

User-defined weigths for tags is a nice idea indeed. Might be too much load on the server, though, as it will actually mean that every user has his own front page.

That's indeed a potential issue, same for filtering. I'm not sure how much caching is going on, but it'd make any caching in place much less effective. Maybe only give that option above a certain karma.

Re: Poll: Would you like tags implemented on HN

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Post by rbanffy » Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 12:47 PM UTC

I would suppose people who disagreed strongly would post their reasons. That's disappointing.

Re: Poll: Would you like tags implemented on HN

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Post by rbanffy » Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 12:49 PM UTC

twidlit wrote: post #10

Can we have a built-in search engine first?

Why? Those folks at Google seem very good at it.

http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&#3...

Re: Poll: Would you like tags implemented on HN

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Post by gnosis » Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 12:50 PM UTC

roryokane wrote: post #35

robryan wrote: post #15

Is there really a downside? Could make a button that allows you to turn off seeing tags at all. Unless there was some kind of a you can have one thing but nothing else I don't see any downside to it.

I can think of two downsides. First, there might be a better system of organization than “tags”, and if PG implements tags, then even if a better organization system is found later, PG will not want to spend even more time implementing this better system, so we would be stuck with an inferior system. Also, even if tags turn out to be the best system of organization, we would use up goodwill if we asked PG to make the…

"there might be a better system of organization than tags"

We should cross that bridge when we get to it. If there is no better alternative to tagging now, this objection does not hold much weight.

How long are we to hold off implementing improvements in hopes that a better solution is found? A year? Ten years? A hundred years?

Remember, there are no guarantees a better solution will ever be found.

And your argument could be used to hold off implementing any feature, not just tags. After all, a better solution might someday be found.

We should make reasonable, incremental improvements like tags instead of waiting for someone to find the holy grail.

Re: Poll: Would you like tags implemented on HN

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Post by mickeyben » Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 12:52 PM UTC

There's an option missing : Seems like a good idea. I'd like an experimentation.

Re: Poll: Would you like tags implemented on HN

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Post by sapegno » Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 12:52 PM UTC

I think it could be a good idea to insert tags in an apposite page where people can find the topic they're interested to. Instead i wouldn't touch the hn central page.

Re: Poll: Would you like tags implemented on HN

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Post by ck2 » Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 12:58 PM UTC

For those that do not want them - just make a menu option to hide them, easy enough to set "display:none" on their block.

Re: Poll: Would you like tags implemented on HN

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Post by cake » Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 1:00 PM UTC

Metafilter does this and I find it pretty useful to find sources on the same subject.

Re: Poll: Would you like tags implemented on HN

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Post by statictype » Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 1:00 PM UTC

gnosis wrote: post #47

statictype wrote: post #23

Might work as long as tags are not user defined. The submitting user has to select from existing tags. Keep a few to begin with. For example: startups - news about or related to startups - IOW what this site was supposed to be about initially gadgets products - new products from existing non-startups hacking - related to programming business advice other - stuff that probably needs to be flagged unless enough people…

"other - stuff that probably needs to be flagged unless enough people like the topic" Except that things in the "other" category are not off topic, and shouldn't be flagged even if only a few people upvote them. Per the guidelines, what's on topic is: "Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything t…

Well, yeah, the exact tags would have to be chosen by pg or something. Main reason for fixing them is so that we don't end up with tablet,iPad,ipad2 as separate tags

Re: Poll: Would you like tags implemented on HN

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Mar 25, 2011, 1:04 PM UTC

gnosis wrote: post #47

statictype wrote: post #23

Might work as long as tags are not user defined. The submitting user has to select from existing tags. Keep a few to begin with. For example: startups - news about or related to startups - IOW what this site was supposed to be about initially gadgets products - new products from existing non-startups hacking - related to programming business advice other - stuff that probably needs to be flagged unless enough people…

"other - stuff that probably needs to be flagged unless enough people like the topic" Except that things in the "other" category are not off topic, and shouldn't be flagged even if only a few people upvote them. Per the guidelines, what's on topic is: "Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything t…

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