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Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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How is this going to avoid becoming like Voat? Reddit already has competitors. It is just that they are cesspools as the only people who have a strong reason to leave reddit are those reddit has banned.

The only redditlike sites that outcompete Reddit are ones with more moderation (e.g., HN), not less.

Moderation should be similar to a database view. I would love a browser extension and backend store like Lemmy that posts to both the site I’m on but also Lemmy (each site would be a distinct “namespace”). What is a forum but a collection of post identifiers with a corresponding tree of comments.

If a mod removes, hides, or takes other mod action on a comment or post, the browser extension and federated storage system still allows me to see and interact with that content and it’s writer (“showdead” globally). You could subscribe to “mod actions” (which is just curation) by mod, which would govern your experience of the content.

I appreciate the mod work here, for example, but I also want to be able to bypass that “filter opinion” so I can still interact with folks and content out of band if I so choose (one person’s “flame war” is another person’s vigorous debate).

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#52
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>There's only one thing that can change my mind a little: if you guarantee email is not and will never be required to sign up or use a feature. I'm not trying to play the devils advocate here, just genuinely curious: Why do you (or anyone else) have such a strong opinion on not using emails for signing up? Usually, when a service requires me to enter an email, I have no issue with using a service like 10minutemail an…

Exactly, it's not like you can't create a genuinely anonymous email address for a one-off purpose.

Yes it's actully like that. Those services get blocked but why do I have to use a third party when you can just make emails optional. If many users dont feel comfortable giving up their email, just make it optinal. You cant expect my support when you don't care about forcing me to jump through hoops because you don't care about my privacy preferences.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#53

How is this going to avoid becoming like Voat? Reddit already has competitors. It is just that they are cesspools as the only people who have a strong reason to leave reddit are those reddit has banned.

It's federated, each instance would be a subreddit. Don't like a instances because it is run by a deplorable? Don't subscribe to it. Is a deplorable posting deplorable things on the instances you are subscribed to and trying to piss on your pool? Downvote/mute/ban them.

But I already see many "subreddits" (here called communities) on the main website: https://dev.lemmy.ml/communities

Also you have a big "create community" button at the top. Surely that doesn't spin a completely new instance of the application every time? And if not, how can we tell which instance a community belongs to?

Honestly I don't really understand the need for something like that to be federated. In the olden days you had a bunch of forums/BBS/IRC network/Whatever that served various niches but didn't communicate with each other.

For instance, what would we gain if we decided to turn HN into a Lemmy federated service?

If anything it seems like in the long run it would be a disservice, as very large communities with lower standards would end up spilling and wrecking niches where the community is more tightly knit and post higher quality content.

This fediverse thing makes some sense for IM and similar applications where you want to be able to connect easily with anybody. For forums however, it feels rather pointless to me.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#54
post #11

Sorry, don't like the name. Also, when you say a reddit alternative, to me it gives the impression that the redditor culture will remain so why would I sacrifice the content rich reddit for a new platform? Federation doesn't mean much to me as a user that justs wants [social]entertainment and news (and commentary on them). There's only one thing that can change my mind a little: if you guarantee email is not and will…

Is paying in crypto that much of a feature for you? Honestly curious about it.

I have been working on hosted Mastodon/XMPP/Matrix and I would definitely consider adding Lemmy to my list of supported services. If I can get authentication via LDAP for it, even better and quicker.

The one thing stopping me from a bigger announcement is that I am yet to finish my crypto payment integration. If you are indeed interesting in something like this, can I reach out to you once it's ready?

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#55

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People don't trust companies who want an email address. You get extra spam, the company or their successors and partners sell the email address, poorly secured computers and cloud nonsense almost ensure it'll be stolen, and nowadays if you have an incorrect opinion you could easily be doxxed, even by people inside of these big tech companies and startups. You may not care about these issues, and you might have the co…

Its am easy way to filter bots though, and its similarly easy for actual users to use disposable emails

Bots cant use anonymous email? Seriously?

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People don't trust companies who want an email address. You get extra spam, the company or their successors and partners sell the email address, poorly secured computers and cloud nonsense almost ensure it'll be stolen, and nowadays if you have an incorrect opinion you could easily be doxxed, even by people inside of these big tech companies and startups. You may not care about these issues, and you might have the co…

And which of these problems is not solved by 10minutemail?

All of them

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People don't trust companies who want an email address. You get extra spam, the company or their successors and partners sell the email address, poorly secured computers and cloud nonsense almost ensure it'll be stolen, and nowadays if you have an incorrect opinion you could easily be doxxed, even by people inside of these big tech companies and startups. You may not care about these issues, and you might have the co…

Its am easy way to filter bots though, and its similarly easy for actual users to use disposable emails

What makes it easy to distinguish disposable emails belonging to bots from those belonging to humans?

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#59

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And which of these problems is not solved by 10minutemail?

They'll ban it once they notice.

Thank you! Everyone wants to lecture about anonymous emails, I think they havn't tried to use them for anything serious.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#60
One thing that stands out to me is lemmy has public modlogs[1], this is a great feature in my opinion. Something that should be more common.

Quite a few people on reddit are frustrated by how opaque moderation is, but looking at the meta community of power users that seems to mod the bigger subs, I doubt the devs will ever copy this feature.

[1]: https://dev.lemmy.ml/modlog

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