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Superhuman’s email app is overhyped and overpriced

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Re: Superhuman’s email app is overhyped and overpriced

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Post by j45 »

kstrauser wrote: post #18

On the one hand, that’s ridiculous. On the other, if you find a way to get people to pay you $30 a month for an otherwise free or cheap service, then bravo. Even if I think it’s silly, it’s a progressive tax on something way less evil than, say, bottling public water and then selling it back to the public.

As much as I’m not a fan of paying that much for email, the fact that anyone has the ability to interrupt you has an enormous potential cost.

Being more effective with email and communicating is a life changing discipline and skill.

The 30/mo should be seen as the hundreds or thousands it can make or safe some people who have to be effective with their time and communication. Again, maybe not for everyone.

Re: Superhuman’s email app is overhyped and overpriced

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Post by jlbnjmn »

graeme wrote: post #49
jlbnjmn wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've saved hundreds of hours by ignoring email and I highly recommend that option as well. By keyboard shortcuts I'm referring to any software that one uses frequently, whether text editor, email, video editing, analytics, or something else. If someone is not using the keyboard shortcuts in Gmail, why not just start there? No migration necessary.

I made the original post you’re replying to, and I agree. Web gmail + shortcuts is actually a great service. I think most people who are fairly satisfied with their email and just want to improve some would be best served starting there. Personally I found superhuman just better enough that it’s worth it, but that’s because I wasn’t very good at managing email in a web interface, and I like the command line approach…

Interesting, if I give email another look I'll check it out.

Does it have a way to auto unsubscribe from and delete promotional content and other non essential stuff?

Re: Superhuman’s email app is overhyped and overpriced

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Post by ekovarski »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #3
raiyu wrote: post #2

When Hey.com announced their features I scrolled through each one and would probably get value from 75% of them. Superhuman seems more of a signaling play. Hey.com features on top of Gmail though, that would be amazing.

I would absolutely pay to get many of they Hey.com features on top of my Fastmail accounts.

If you don't mind me asking, what features would those be?

Re: Superhuman’s email app is overhyped and overpriced

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Post by PostPlummer »

ponker wrote: post #30
cercatrova wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Mine is the exact opposite experience. Gmail, the website, takes at least 2 minutes to load and be usable, so much that I need to use a separate extension to use it normally (Checker Plus for Gmail).

Something is pathologically broken for you. Don’t know whether it’s client side like a corrupted browser or service side like a malformed attachment that is causing Gmail to thrash. Chances of course are that the problem is on your end.

100% sure. I have been using gmail since forever on all sorts of networks and devices and never ever has taking "being useful" 20 seconds, unless there is something very wrong on my side.

Weirdest thing is that an add-on makes it faster, how's that even possible without a serious MiTB problem?

Re: Superhuman’s email app is overhyped and overpriced

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Post by toomuchtodo »

ekovarski wrote: post #53
toomuchtodo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would absolutely pay to get many of they Hey.com features on top of my Fastmail accounts.

If you don't mind me asking, what features would those be?

* Inbox whitelist

* Files view

* Native large file transfers (even if I had to provide my own Backblaze API creds for storing those files, instead of having to use Firefox Send)

* Clips

* Notes to self in an email thread

* "Paper trail" for receipts (although I can probably accomplish this with filters)

* Thread unfollowing

https://hey.com/features/

Re: Superhuman’s email app is overhyped and overpriced

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Post by graeme »

jlbnjmn wrote: post #52
graeme wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made the original post you’re replying to, and I agree. Web gmail + shortcuts is actually a great service. I think most people who are fairly satisfied with their email and just want to improve some would be best served starting there. Personally I found superhuman just better enough that it’s worth it, but that’s because I wasn’t very good at managing email in a web interface, and I like the command line approach…

Interesting, if I give email another look I'll check it out. Does it have a way to auto unsubscribe from and delete promotional content and other non essential stuff?

It puts them into other, and it has a faster unsubscribe interface, though it doesn’t already work. When you delete a message you can trash or mark done all from the same sender, so that is nice.

For that use case you might look into Sanebox. It runs on servers and I think has a good reputation for that kind of filtering.

Personally I haven’t had too much issue with promotional email though, so I would take my comments here with a grain of salt. I can’t really speak to it.

The other folder filtering is decent, but I imagine gmail is also good at that with promotions.

Re: Superhuman’s email app is overhyped and overpriced

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Post by terrycody »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #55
ekovarski wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't mind me asking, what features would those be?

* Inbox whitelist * Files view * Native large file transfers (even if I had to provide my own Backblaze API creds for storing those files, instead of having to use Firefox Send) * Clips * Notes to self in an email thread * "Paper trail" for receipts (although I can probably accomplish this with filters) * Thread unfollowing https://hey.com/features/

mate, I got some really good hey names, interested?

Re: Superhuman’s email app is overhyped and overpriced

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Post by 1123581321 »

jonshariat wrote: post #32
Androider wrote: post #13

Superhuman is a slightly faster GMail, while Hey ( https://hey.com/features/ ) on the other hand seems like a rethinking of the fundamentals of email starting from "Anyone can email you". I've tried inbox zero etc. but they all fail in the long run for me (I'm one of those folks with the red badge of shame with literally 40,000 unread emails on my phone), so I'm eager to give Hey a try which gives you a workflow of h…

I got into the "beta" last night only to find out it was a 1 week trial and the cost was $100/year. (Also when claiming emails short addresses costs even more money per year). Right off the bat it put a really bad taste in my mouth. I'm helping you test your product. Changing your email is a really big commitment, I can't imagine this is the way to convince people to try it.

It was explicitly a rollout of a release, not a beta. They weren’t expecting any testing from you. You never saw any beta language on hey.com or your signup email.

Proof from Jason: https://mobile.twitter.com/jasonfried/status/126602572713423...

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