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From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4

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Re: From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4

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This is an excuse for people the world over to try and get in their supposed witty slams on IE. I've personally always felt sad for the IE team because I'm sure the engineers want to put out a badass browser that competes with the best the market has to offer, and I'm sure the management and marketing types are the ones that are demanding it's hobbled in certain ways to try and keep their corporate clients on the hook using their products.

At least, that's how I envision it.

Re: From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4

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Is that the IE3 icon on the cake? Or maybe it's because the cake don't support full-resolution png icing. Anyways, huge improvement over the first one, which was only black and white: http://fredericiana.com/2006/10/24/from-redmond-with-love/

Sounds like Microsoft has never heard of the Carlito's Bakery or Charm City Cakes. Considering M$'s size I think the cake could have been a hell of a lot cooler.

It's just the IE team, and I'm sure "cake for competitors" isn't in the budget.

Re: From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4

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"Considering the way they drove Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox into near oblivion with devious practices, this seems a lot like sending a valentine’s day card to your rape victim, every year." - from the comments on the original article. But seriously, it's a nice gesture from Microsoft, it goes to show that there are many different people working there and that we can't judge them as a whole.

The comparison to rape is in VERY poor taste and you certainly didn't have to copy it here.

sheesh lighten-up a little. I find the comparison spot on. Not that I'm saying that what Microsoft did can literary be compared to rape and the horrors it puts a victim trough. I just thought it's a nice metaphor sigh

Re: From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could ask the same of Google and Chrome. An excellent treatise on the topic is discussed in Breaking Windows: How Bill Gates Fumbled the Future of Microsoft , by David Bank. It describes a lot of the tensions that existed inside Microsoft as they tried to figure out how to continue selling Windows as a platform, while still seeing the threat of the web as a platform on the horizon. IE was part of that threat resp…

Interesting point. However it seems like the only way to make big money on the internet is through advertisement and Google has that market locked up. Chrome is just another tool for their social data-mining. I'm sure they keep logs of what searches your IP has made (if you use Google Search), what emails you have read (if you use Gmail) and what websites you visit (through Chrome). If you sign up for any of their se…

I'm not saying Microsoft is trying to replicate this at all. I would posit that Google came and broke the rules of the software industry and made new rules. Microsoft is trying to take the game back. They are admittedly trying to copy Google on a number of points, but who can truly know what Microsoft's end game is and what's going on in their heads except for Microsoft?

One thing for sure, Google coming in and messing up the rules is directly attacking Microsoft's bread and butter: Office and Windows. That's where Microsoft makes most of their money, particularly Office. Google has docs, AppEngine, and more. For many mainstream people these days, the browser is the only thing that they need; Microsoft is still powerful, but if the trends continue, they'll be irrelevant. So I'm just claiming that Microsoft's trying to do what they can to rewrite the rules of the game again and take back control while they still have the resources to do so.

It's a lot more urgent now than before, which is why Microsoft is so heavily and now visibly investing into things like mobile, cloud computing, and the like. The effort from Microsoft was always there before, but it always seemed half-hearted. 3 years ago, you never would have thought Microsoft would care about web standards to the extent that IE9 does. MS Office was still offline packaged software. Etcetera.

Anyway, I highly recommend the book. It's a fascinating read.

Re: From Redmond with Love - IE team sends cake for FF4

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I wish more companies would do something like this. Honestly, IE9 and all the surrounding tech media is really leaving an awesome impression on me. Gestures like this prove that the IE team wants to take part in a modern internet world much more than any standard compliance chart ever could. On a side note, I found Office 2010/2011, IE9 and Windows 7 a joy to use. And this is in stark contrast to Office 2003/2008, IE…

Nothing will ever bring back hours of IE6 workaround time, or change my mind about using a Windows computer. Cumulatively, developers and clients paid millions in billable hours for their neglect in monopoly. They couldn't warm up to me even if they swapped their board of directors with Sesame Street characters.

And all the man-years you saved users by using XMLHttpRequest? Otherwise known as AJAX?

Or have you conveniently forgotten which browser that was introduced in?

One day you should download the version of Netscape that was around when IE6 came out.

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