Hi, the author of Deepnote here, this is cool!
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An exploratory statistical analysis of the 2014 World Cup Final
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Re: An exploratory statistical analysis of the 2014 World Cup Final
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not sure if you can influence this, but I have two platform suggestions that crossed my mind while reading it: 1. I would make the "Run this article as a notebook" more visible. On a first read, I've completely skipped that part as it's very similar to pop-ups on medium. Having an option to directly run/modify this blog would be pretty amazing. 2. The chosen color scheme of code formatting is a bit odd, but that migh…
Of course, thanks for the suggestions. 1. I agree, but there is a reason for this. We'll soon be adding the ability to run/modify feature even without the need to sign up so the whole thing will go away. 2. Thanks! We are experimenting with this (the default scheme is different, but we had a lot of people requesting dark mode so trying out different things for the published articles.)
I really love the dark theme of Sourcegraph in VsCode.
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=sourcegr...
Re: An exploratory statistical analysis of the 2014 World Cup Final
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a strategy that gives up possession in exchange for denying offensive space to the opponent and relies on exploiting (through counter attacks) the defensive space the attacker opens. When executed well, it can win games but it's not amenable to the type of analysis presented in this write-up. That's what the bit is about.
Aha, so essentially he meant "football is a game of space, that's why parking the bus is an interesting strategy". Thank you. Too much binary thinking from me. I often struggle to discern the meaning of unclear writing. Which is probably why I spend disproportionate time on my own writing polishing and rewriting for clarity. But I still fail regularly, it's not an easy problem.
Glad it helped! I brain-pretzeled myself over soundness in this very forum just last year:
Re: An exploratory statistical analysis of the 2014 World Cup Final
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aha, so essentially he meant "football is a game of space, that's why parking the bus is an interesting strategy". Thank you. Too much binary thinking from me. I often struggle to discern the meaning of unclear writing. Which is probably why I spend disproportionate time on my own writing polishing and rewriting for clarity. But I still fail regularly, it's not an easy problem.
Glad it helped! I brain-pretzeled myself over soundness in this very forum just last year: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20196575
An interesting and educational thread
> "I've now come to understand the two chief weapons of the JIT remain surprise, fear, ruthless efficiency and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope."
I like this very much. Even adding nice red uniforms, it's still two chief weapons.
Re: An exploratory statistical analysis of the 2014 World Cup Final
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Watch Germany vs. France and say that. The Germans stalled and fouled the whole game and scored off a set piece. In the final versus Argentina too, the game was scoreless until extra time. They also needed extra time versus Algeria. Their only real display of attacking was versus Brazil who self-destructed after having their best player (and top 3 player in the world) horrifically injured.
And yet, perhaps the most breathtaking display of football dominance I saw from that Germany team, was from their 2016 Euro semi-final against France. It was way more impressive than their brazil dismantling. Their control of the game was out of this world. Football is "unstable" as a game. To dominate in a consistent way, you actually need to be overwhelming superior to your opponent in many different stages/aspects…
Ummm they lost... I was actually in France that year. France advanced then lost the final to Portugal.
Re: An exploratory statistical analysis of the 2014 World Cup Final
#56One of those who doesnt like the use of advanced stats in football. I do watch a lot of football though. My reason is simple: The advanced stats as they are called (xG, xA, xPA, offense actions, defense actions) all end up as a mere tool for disregarding the actual result and providing arguments for which was the better team. Like team A won the match 1-0 but team B were the better team since they had more >. The ide…
Do you think the game of football is more complex than, say, the global economy? I doubt it, yet we still use data and statistics to analyse the economy, so why not football or any other sport?
Its not an exact comparison. We use models to analyse the economy but not human behavior. Any sport is a lot about human intelligence, behavior, and skill. Easy to quantify the final output (like numbers that matter such as goals) and compare those. Right now, other than that, we dont have good enough models for any action in football. The context is very important, but that is completely ignored by statistics. Until we get where those things are given due consideration, there is no point quoting or debating over vanity metrics like xG, offensive actions etc. There is a very American tendency to reduct a game to just stats, but that a game is infinitely more complex. You may have just one offensive action in the game and yet still win the game if you are well drilled defensively, and can stop opposition counters.
Re: An exploratory statistical analysis of the 2014 World Cup Final
#57One of those who doesnt like the use of advanced stats in football. I do watch a lot of football though. My reason is simple: The advanced stats as they are called (xG, xA, xPA, offense actions, defense actions) all end up as a mere tool for disregarding the actual result and providing arguments for which was the better team. Like team A won the match 1-0 but team B were the better team since they had more >. The ide…
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Re: An exploratory statistical analysis of the 2014 World Cup Final
#58Hi, the author of Deepnote here, this is cool!
Nice. Is there a reason that the up-down arrows don't work to scroll the page on Deepnote? PgUp/PgDown work but the arrow keys are blocked for some reason (Chrome, Windows 10)
No good reason, it's a bug, thanks for reporting.
Deepnote is a data science notebook and we are capturing the up/down key events in the main app so that you can move inside the cells and also between the cells. This article is using the same codebase but in read-only mode. I forgot to disable it in this mode.
Re: An exploratory statistical analysis of the 2014 World Cup Final
#59If anyone's interested in doing similar analysis, my company StatsBomb makes a lot of event data available on GitHub, including the last World Cup, lots of Champions League finals, NWSL and FAWSL etc: https://github.com/statsbomb/open-data/
Are you able to share how StatsBomb collects event data? I'd love to build something to capture stats for local club teams but probably not if it involves computer vision. Thanks!
We do use a combination of humans and computer vision, and some providers (especially of full tracking data) have wholly automated pipelines, but analysts all over the world are collecting stuff manually every day. Really depends what sort of stuff you want to collect - you can use something like SportsCode to match any sort of events to video segments, and if you're a coach or scout you'll know what performance indicators you think are most important. If you just want some sort of team performance metrics you could start collecting shot data (coordinates, defensive pressure, type of assist etc) and build a simple xG model. Nothing you can't do in a spreadsheet or even on paper.
Re: An exploratory statistical analysis of the 2014 World Cup Final
#60Germany 2014 was about the best I've seen the game played. Something I watch that seems to differentiate players and teams at every level is what happens on the first touch when receiving a pass. When you first start watching this, you'll notice that as you move up the ranks, the ball just sticks to a pro's feet, preferably in front of them a couple feet away where they are ready to play it again. Watching Germany th…
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