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Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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Honest question: are there people out there who are legitimately uncomfortable/upset about the usage of the terms "master" and "slave" in the context of technology? Or is this more so people trying to be too socially "woke" and assuming something to be offensive when it is not? Master/slave are pretty commonly used terms whenever we talk about things like distributed systems and communication buses. Essentially every…

Yes, there are legitimately people who believe the master-slave terminology trivializes American slavery. They are mostly in the U.S. and probably a minority of programmers but they exist. But in this case, there's not even a slave branch.

Also America is just one among the 100% of populated parts of the world that had chattel slavery at some point, it's pretty rich that ignorant people from America tricking themselves into being offended by this sort of thing should have any effect on other people's behaviour.

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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counterpoint: I'll be pissed off and emotionally triggered, knowing that they bent over backwards just to be "politically correct" or "progressive".

It's a bit of a paradox isn't it, if you really are emotionally triggered by people making a gesture to black developers, doesn't that suggest that developers are really easily emotionally triggered, and therefore making the gesture is actually important and therefore you shouldn't be triggered because it's not bending over backward to be politically correct it's actually tackling something that's a real issue?

What's the issue in this case? What do I put in my CV in place of "Master's degree" in case it triggers someone?

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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I don't think it's because people are offended at the use of the word master, in this case. I think, that it's symbolic. By making a point of getting rid of the word master, you're showing that black lives matter.

What about all other races that are discriminated against or people that are bullied? Do those matter?

This forum should be above intellectually disingenuous comments such as this. This isn't Facebook, I'm not going to meme back at you. If you don't understand BLM at this point, that is a decision you've made and you will live with the moral and other implications.

Edit: likewise, it's perfectly reasonable to think the GitHub/git trend is silly or ineffective. But keep in mind that "virtue signalling" goes both ways. When you speak out against what you see as silly, ineffective but is ultimately well meaning, you're virtue signaling that "all lives matter."

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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I'm a strong supporter of social justice. I don't really object to people putting in work to change language like that if they think it's important. Especially when the work required is minimal. That said, this is slightly ridiculous. Have customers seriously complained about the term "master"? And my impression was that the usage was more similar to "master copy" than "master of the plantation". Honestly, it's frust…

I don't think it's because people are offended at the use of the word master, in this case. I think, that it's symbolic. By making a point of getting rid of the word master, you're showing that black lives matter.

Every word to me is violence and so is silence. You're damned if you do and damned if you don't and you're just damned so damnit just kill yourself.

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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I'm a strong supporter of social justice. I don't really object to people putting in work to change language like that if they think it's important. Especially when the work required is minimal. That said, this is slightly ridiculous. Have customers seriously complained about the term "master"? And my impression was that the usage was more similar to "master copy" than "master of the plantation". Honestly, it's frust…

I don't think it's because people are offended at the use of the word master, in this case. I think, that it's symbolic. By making a point of getting rid of the word master, you're showing that black lives matter.

They are hardly related. Will you be removing my master's degree next?

Re: GitHub is working on renaming default branch from “master”

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It's a bit of a paradox isn't it, if you really are emotionally triggered by people making a gesture to black developers, doesn't that suggest that developers are really easily emotionally triggered, and therefore making the gesture is actually important and therefore you shouldn't be triggered because it's not bending over backward to be politically correct it's actually tackling something that's a real issue?

What's the issue in this case? What do I put in my CV in place of "Master's degree" in case it triggers someone?

I wouldn't be listing your git commits on your CV in the first place.
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